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What is Ricky Rubio's trade value to us?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Jul 26, 2016.

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What would you be willing to trade for Rubio?

  1. Trash (Brewer/KJ)

    118 vote(s)
    55.9%
  2. DMo(S&T) + 1 of Ariza/Bev

    41 vote(s)
    19.4%
  3. RUBIO SUX!! -Don't want, Make them give us 2 firsts for taking him

    32 vote(s)
    15.2%
  4. DMo(S&T) + 1 of Ariza/Bev + first

    10 vote(s)
    4.7%
  5. Ariza and Bev + a first

    10 vote(s)
    4.7%
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  1. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Contributing Member

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    breakdown rubios bronze medal game on mills
     
  2. basketballholic

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    He did not have a good game. Bad matchup. Spain had nobody else. The rest of the perimeter defenders on Spain are horrible except for Llull. And Spain's defensive interior is atrocious. Do you think if Lebron were on Mills that Lebron would have shut him off if surrounded by Pau and the rest of Spain defensively?
     
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  3. YOLO

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    lolol a guy who has never come close to sniffing the playoffs let alone a winning season would move past cp3 just by shooting better from 3 lolololol
     
  4. basketballholic

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    Rubio has played with kids and junk his whole NBA career. You can't put not making the playoffs on him. His team is something like +9 per 100 possessions when he is on-court versus off-court. Lebron couldn't have drug those guys he's played with into the playoffs. He's never played alongside a true defensive center. Rubio has never really had a team around him.

    The difference is Rubio is humble enough to suffer it. Most superstar level players would have already blown up and forced their way out. Not Ricky. He just keeps plugging away, trying to grow his team into the playoffs.

    I'm sorry you don't see it. But someday he'll be on a championship worthy team and guys like you will finally cine around after he's done it. But by then it'll be too late to have a shot at acquiring him.

    Buy low, sell high. Rubio's stock has never been lower than it is right now. If Minny moves him, somebody is going to get a great player for pennies on the dollar. You have to see these opportunities in advance.

    Anybody can ride the wagon once it's rolling.
     
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  5. Cashmoney

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    Llull is not a good defender
     
  6. basketballholic

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    I know that. His defense at the Olympics was way overrated. I just didn't want to argue with all the Llull guys.
     
  7. YOLO

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    all you ever tried to do was blame others around him which is just a plain joke. Lebron would absolutely be able to make the playoffs with the roster hes rubio has had. pretty much stopped reading after i see anything regarding that. at the end of the day it just shows rubio is no where near as good as you ever thought he was period. his impact on winning is absolutely minimal and like ive said before is probably at its lowest now. his days are numbered as far as the incumbent pg for minnesota
     
  8. hakeemthagreat

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    Let's not confuse Patrick Beverley maybe not being as good a defender as HE once was, for him not being a good defender at all. He's always been a good defender. If James Harden suddenly became the defender Beverley was last year, he'd be the best player in the league.
     
  9. basketballholic

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    Hope you're right about him leaving Minny. Sure hope he comes here.
     
  10. Cashmoney

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    Okay good.

    Seriously I have no issues with you its just when you get in this frame of mind about a scrub. I mean the CP3 post was perhaps the craziest thing I've read for a while.

    I get you like his game but I don't want him here, he's not coming here. He's trash. If he had a shot then it would be a different story
     
  11. J Sizzle

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    If Rubio finds himself on a team with multiple superior players, sure, I guess he could end up on a championship team and do well. The same is true for a large portion of players in the NBA. But there is no evidence of Rubio being a primary factor leading such a team.

    Hell...look at the Wolves now. They are a trendy team not because of Rubio, but because they finally have potential stars in Towns and Wiggins. If Rubio sticks around while they become the faces of the Wolves and ends up on a good team because of that, then good for him.
     
  12. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Obsessive behavior... it's not healthy
     
  13. rocketseagles07

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    Lebron couldn't get Minnesota to the playoffs. LMAOOOOOOOO. See Holic this is why people write you off. You can't be serious. Lebron got to the finals with Mo Williams as his second best players
     
  14. napalm06

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    Hey, I like Doritos.
     
  15. alethios

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    I never doubted *your* sanity.
     
  16. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Llull's "on ball defense" isn't bad. He is a scraper. But he is average defensively. Probably "good enough" as a 3rd guard. His value is more offensively, creating shots and toggling back and forth between 1 & 2 depending on needs.
     
  17. basketballholic

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    If Rubio finds himself on a team with 3 shooters/scorers and a 5 that can run pick and roll and defend the rim, he'll be awesome.
     
  18. J Sizzle

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    I don't see what is so special about this. Any serviceable point guard should thrive in such a situation.
     
  19. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Rubio is NOT special. If he was, his team would have gone to the playoffs at least once instead of perennial bottom feeders. Hell, even PBev can look great if you put him on a team with 3 shooters and a big who can run PnR and defend the rim. The difference is, a certain obsessed poster has a hard on for him.

    Rubio is like a poor man's Rondo. He is a much crappier finisher than Rondo is IMO, though a much better FT shooter. As teams continue the trend of shooting more three's, Rubio will become increasingly marginalized, especially in the final moments of the game.

    Finally, the idea that Rubio will somehow play in harmony with a ball dominant SG like Harden is sheer lunacy to me. We can argue that a 2nd playmaker will allow Harden to sit on the bench longer, but the moment he steps out onto the court, the ball will be in his hand most of the time. What do we do with Rubio then? Do we bench him? Do we leave him on the corner for the D to sag off and hope he lucks out and hits a shot from range? The Rockets will never be a fit with Rubio unless Harden is no longer on the team (which would be a huge mistake IMO) or if he decides to play off the ball more, though at this point in time, I wouldn't have any confidence that he still remembers how.
     
  20. KlutchQT

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    Exactly lol.
     
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