What is Kevin's trade value and would you even deal him?

If the right trade comes along nobody on this Rockets team is untouchable. Martin is in his prime and his trade value should be very high after a strong season. I would trade him if we can get something valueable in return. This team needs a star and if Kevin Martin is your best player you have no chance.

 

Trade Martin (along with anything else) to the Jazz for their Nets' pick.

PG: Harris
SG: Martin
SF: Hayward
PF: Favors
C: Jefferson

Solid line-up.

 

I would definitely deal Kevin Martin. Maybe not for peanuts but, say, pistachio nuts - yes!

 

I probably wouldnt actively shop him, but he's not untradeable. The team could also upgrade via trade without getting a star for martin.

Granger and martin are equal players, but Granger can defend his position better. Martin scores more, granger can get his own shot late and rebounds and defends better. The pacers might feel like they want george at the 3, so a martin for granger trade would be equal. Lee and Chase can hold down the 2 and granger the 3. The rockets would be a better defensive team directly from that trade.

 

I think the Rockets should definitely consider trading Martin, but they should only do so for a king's ransom (no pun intended).

Martin is coming off one of his best seasons (esp. health wise) and I think his trade value is thus pretty much at the peak of what it is ever going to be. On the flip side, with the almost certainty of Adelman's departure I am not sure how effective Martin will be in a new offensive system. Compound that with his weakness as a defensive player, his lack of that intense killer instinct that almost all stars have, and the fact that his backup (Lee) is such a solid player I think Martin thus becomes extremely trade-able.

Basically, if Martin is your best player your team is not going to compete for a title AND Martin is probably the best chip Houston has of acquiring someone who MAY become that new best player that would take the team to a title. This team needs a top tier player to move forward, and it looks like they are going to have to do some gambling to get one. I say they make those gambles and stop accepting mediocrity (though, I must say this tough minded brand of mediocrity they put on the court this season is extremely fun to watch -- but I think they can still be tough minded without Martin, as long as they still have guys like Hayes, Lee, and Lowry).

As far as what they can get -- I think getting Okur and the Nets pick is a realistic possibility -- certainly not the only one though. Plenty of teams in the draft may hate this year's crop. Maybe a big trade with Washington picking up their top pick, McGee, and the last fully guaranteed year of Rashard Lewis's contract. Milwaukee might be willing to give up Bogut as well as other assets. The main thing is, with what Martin seemingly brings Morey might be able to really fleece another team in a trade for him.

Buy low sell high.

 

package scola/brad miller + other incentives for a big man ie dalembert/chandler/okafor and draft a SF like terrence jones/kawhi leonard

 

Are you kidding me! Beasley has been beasting this year!

Also please don't use the "his just putting up #'s on a bad team" excuse, because isn't that what K-Mart did before he came to the Rockets?!

Look Beasley is only 22yrs old, and is still improving and getting better. He has the talent to be a top tier SF, in this league. He can create his own shot in isolation plays, as well as create shots for others. He can rebound at the SF spot, and can be constant mismatch on the floor.

He has the talent to be elite, but of course he is a gamble, but the type of gamble the Rockets should be making right now. With their lack of 'star' talent.

Martin is what he is, his not getting any younger at 28, only two years away from the dreaded 30. We should trade him now, while he still has a ton of trade value, then wait for later and repeat the 'Aaron Brooks mistake'...

 

There is zero reason to get rid of Martin.

He has at least 5 years of decent shelf life left, his contract makes him less movable, and we're paper thin at the 2.

Scola, on the other hand, is older, paid less, and plays in a position of great depth for the Rockets.

Luis, you look ok, but it's time to go.

 

Firstly with Martin, 32's generally viewed as the time when a SG will actually start to really decline. I don't view 30 as some sort of death knell like so many people seem to. How old was Dream when he got his rings?

I am also really, really tired of people outside Minnesota acting like we have good players all because they were a top 5 pick, and then they bash Love because his defense is spotty. It really pisses me off, as they just do not understand how much we freaking suck.
Beasley is not going to be a star. I can guarantee this. He tries to do too much (and don't give me the "it's because he's on a bad team" excuse because that has nothing to do with some of his plays), and he's really not that much better from his days in Miami. He had a hot start to the season, so ESPN trumped him up, and now everyone who follows the Wolves still thinks he's playing like that.
Look, if I could, I would trade Beasley for someone like Varejao. The idea of getting Martin for him would somewhat energize me as a Wolves fan, but would infuriate me as a Rockets fan.

 

Heyalll NO !!

I was on the fence with this guy coming into this year - But he has been a STUD !!! reliable, consistent, durable - Love him. Critical piece to building a Winner here. Let's keep the core of Martin, Scola, Lowry together and let them continue to Gel - get rid of Yao's contract and trade a few pieces along with picks and get a Solid Big . . .

 

Yeah, trade all of our best players on good contracts. I am sure all the stars want to play with our bench players while we start from scratch. Why do people still make these threads. Use your heads people.

 

Why would you deal away your highest scoring player? The Rocket's record would be much worse this season without him.

 

Martin should only be traded if it got us another SG and a bonafide center. Otherwise I think anything else would be a lateral move.

 

I would trade Scola before even thinking about trading Martin.

Our team weakest link is at the PF and Center. Positions that only thrives with playing defense along with offense. With the current group of guys, you can only pick one of the two. There is potential in Patterson, that is why Scola should go now if he has any value that would land Houston a defensive stud to put before Hayes.

We need second chance points!

 

I wouldn't trade him I been saying you get him a rebounder shotblock Martin will become a star. Dude put hell of numbers but because you have no interior deffensive presence on the team nobody pays attention to him.

 

To everyone posting how Martin should not be traded --

-- I am not saying he should be traded for whatever we could get -- he should only be traded if a certain level of asset(s) can be acquired. The question then becomes "What is Kevin's trade value" and "would you even deal him".

I for one think his trade value is high right now and that we should trade him if they can get a great package for him. My argument for this is that:
1) I don't think he will be as good next season outside of Adleman's system. Do you?
2) A team will never be a title contender when Martin is their best player. Of course, houston could get a new player better than Martin -- but, unfortunately I think they have a better chance of doing so using Martin than any other manner.

 

Martin's game works in any system. He is a pure shooter who gets to the free throw line. His 07, 08 and 09 numbers without adelman as the coach were pretty similar to this years.

I hope we do everything we can to keep him. If he can stay healthy, with his skill set, there is no reason he can't be a contributor for a long time, the money he is owed is still great value and if we are able to resign him to a cheaper deal as his career winds down I can see him being an extremely effective player for us for a long time.

With that said IF he is what it takes to get a superstar here I would have to pull the trigger. He is great, but he is a 2nd tier guy and if there is no other way to get a 1st tier guy then you have to do the deal.

I'm starting to be on board with dealing scola, but cringe to think of how bad we will be in the low post game if we don't bring someone else in. Scola's post skills are his best attribute to the team and if he is traded we need someone to fill that gap.

 

Martin is a star-quality player who people don't credit with star status, so we'd get back less than he's worth if we ever trade him.

 

No. Martin has become pretty reliable. I can see how he might make another contending team real deadly as a second option to a true Superstar. Heck we would be nearly unbeatable if they had to foul Kevin Martin at the end of games to send him to the free throw line every night.

 

In factthis team is perfectly built for Dwight Howard. Kevin Martin shooting threes and his scoring and efficient field goal percentages to go with Howard. The open threes for Martin Howard creates. The unclogged lane for Howard that Martin, Lowry, and Budinger create. The added defense by Howard to our already high powered offense. Howards low post skills added to a great passing point guard in Lowry who can push the fast break and alley oop to Dwight. If only he was a free agent Morey........