Depends on the breakout really, Jordan Poole also broke out a little with the Warriors, that is how he got that fat contract.... But then things escalated and he just got worse..... The only breakout I would be surprised would be that Green goes on averaging 8 or 9 assists other than his scoring and really good assists at that...... I mean not when a coach like Udoker is telling the team and Green to be a playmaker, he just averages those numbers outside of the developing gameplan.
I recall others saying he was at least a 20-5-5 guy (based on his play-off performances prior). It is a different story to Green. Harden was a 6th man and they chose to pay Ibaka, and offered Harden $1m less than his max (they could have offered him 55 over 4yrs, but offered 54m over 4. He felt the slight not to get the full max offer, and Hou was happy to offer the full max over 5 years (78M 1 year later). The comparison to Haliburton is also different. Halliburton was behind Fox for position and p/t. What he could become was somewhat evident - but Sacto made a choice of Fox and went with it. A Haliburton similarity might come next year, with Whitmore being the similee, and Green being the Fox. Green isn't behind anyone, nor off the bench. We have seen what he can (or cannot) do, and while we all wish he could breakout, really the path to a breakout for him is efficiency, and his avoidance of contact, and continued poor shooting form (still a draw across his body and poor mechanics) are concerning. His BBIQ and defence are also fairly concerning... Green has talent, and it may yet be unlocked. But I think it is time to take whatever we can get - possibly wait until the off-season given his propensity to shoot better percentages after the ASB. That should (again) raise his value, and the Rockets might be wise to cash in.
i figured it out. the rox is purposely messing green up for the next couple of seasons so when contract time comes, they can underpay him. then they'd allow him to be the superstar that he is meant to be, making him the best contract in the league.
DeeAron Fox is an example of a player who was a late bloomer. Seems like a lot of us are thinking the same thing. The Rockets would be wise to cash in on what little value Green has left. Here's the issue with Green. He's significantly more inefficient than almost any player he's compared to. Even Fox who took time to develop still shot mid 40s from the field in his first years. He also always flashed as a good defender. There still might be a team or teams out there that believe there's an All Star in there. Rockets need to do whats in their best interest. It just depends on whether or not they want to do it now or after the lottery. Filipowski seems to be exactly what the Rockets need at the backup C spot and should be there when the Rockets pick.
Jalen has some value to somebody at present. No argument. But if Jalen has little to no improvement next season, by the end of it, his value may not even be a late 1st round pick. If he breaks out, his value will improve substantially. So its a gamble either way, both for the Rockets and any team willing to trade for him.
Any team considering a trade for Jalen would watch every game and look at his game under a microscope.
It would be almost cruel to subject someone to that kind of torture. I imagine they'd get just a little bit into that before destroying whatever they were watching the film on to make it stop.
The divergence of opinions on Green’s trade value is interesting. I would think we’d be the team needing to give up extra assets in a Grimes/Green swap. They are both third year guards and Grimes has shown he can have a role helping his team win games and Jalen hasn’t. It’s weird to me to think that Jalen would be the more valuable player.
I like the video, but the only thing I disagree with is that we can punt trading Green until next year's deadline and bench him until then if he doesn't improve. The Rockets should have enough internal data on Jalen Green to make a decision now. If they think he's nearly there and don't trade him, cool. But if they are truly concerned and benching him in the near future is on the table, then they must be proactive and trade Jalen Green before it gets to that point. I think once you bench him it gets to a point of no return. Jalen Green's trade value will sink even further and he will probably want out of Houston as well. Stone needs to make a decision on this before things get messy. Green plus a 1st round pick packaged with other ancillary assets could bring in help that the Rockets need now to make a play-in/playoff push. The worst thing to do is let this season go to waste by not making a move to bring in needed talent because we are still hoping for Jalen Green to break out.
Well, if you don't think he's going to magically become a competent player in the next year, it would be dumping him before he becomes a completely negative asset. I get that his true believers still think he's the next coming of Kobe or whatever delusions they've got going these days, but if the Grizzlies could have gotten something for Hasheem Thabeet or the Wizards could have gotten something for Kwame Brown....wouldn't that have been a good thing for them?
