Nice. Complete and utter nonsense. I believe it is our government's job to neutralize effective tactics (terror) against us...let's do that first, then we will protect the world...
how is that war on drugs going? drug use has increased, drug trafficking has gone up, more people in prison, they keep spending more on more on an obviously failed policy. if there is a war on drugs the drugs are winning big time. which goes to the point that you cannot declare war on an abstract. it is absurd. but fighting wars against abstracts is big money for those who can get in on it - a never ending revenue stream. roxran, if we are really fighting a war on terror why does our government support terrorists, like the jundullah, who were founded by 9/11 mastermind khalid sheik mohammed and have been carrying out terrorism in iran? if we are really fighting a war on terror than why is our government now arming the sunni (saddam's people) groups that have fought against and killed americans in iraq?
Frankly, terrorism is really low on my priority list in terms of national issues that need to be addressed by the government. I couldn't care less what anyone's "policy" is in that regard with respect to elections. (Note: I use the term "policy" very loosely here)
You have yet to describe how that is possible. Let's play a new game. Forget our actual military tactics. In theory, what is one example of a strategy that would neutralize the effectiveness of the "kill a civilian" terror tactic. One idea. Anything. By the way, even Bush admits we're not at war with tactics: "Now we're involved in a — I call it a global war against terror. You can call it a global war against extremists, a global war against radicals, a global war against people who want to hurt America. You can call it whatever you want, but it is a global effort." The president, who has been using the phrase since at least June 2002, drew laughter in 2004 when he told a convention of UNITY: Journalists of Color Inc.: "We actually misnamed the war on terror. It ought to be: 'the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world.' " Notice how when asked to expound on the term, he consistently points to the fact that its a war against certain groups of people.
you should really read more. you might learn something. do you know anything about the history of iran? did you know our cia helped overthrow their democratically elected leader in the 50's. how would you feel if iran had overthrown our president and arrested our congress? before you go around acting all macho and spewing crap like "kill them" perhaps you should try to educate yourself on the subject. i would bet that if provided a blank map of the world you would not even be able to find iran, but you want to "kill them". iran has never attacked america nor been a direct threat to us and our own intelligence puts them at 10 years from having a bomb - but we have people wanting to nuke them. how did that pre-emtive strike doctrine work over in iraq? anyway, here is your link and/or supporting evidence. again, you should really read more. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html ABC News Exclusive: The Secret War Against Iran A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News. The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran. It has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials. U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight. Tribal sources tell ABC News that money for Jundullah is funneled to its youthful leader, Abd el Malik Regi, through Iranian exiles who have connections with European and Gulf states. Jundullah has produced its own videos showing Iranian soldiers and border guards it says it has captured and brought back to Pakistan. The leader, Regi, claims to have personally executed some of the Iranians. "He used to fight with the Taliban. He's part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," said Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant who recently met with Pakistani officials and tribal members. "Regi is essentially commanding a force of several hundred guerrilla fighters that stage attacks across the border into Iran on Iranian military officers, Iranian intelligence officers, kidnapping them, executing them on camera," Debat said. Most recently, Jundullah took credit for an attack in February that killed at least 11 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard riding on a bus in the Iranian city of Zahedan. Last month, Iranian state television broadcast what it said were confessions by those responsible for the bus attack. They reportedly admitted to being members of Jundullah and said they had been trained for the mission at a secret location in Pakistan. The Iranian TV broadcast is interspersed with the logo of the CIA, which the broadcast blamed for the plot. A CIA spokesperson said "the account of alleged CIA action is false" and reiterated that the U.S. provides no funding of the Jundullah group. Pakistani government sources say the secret campaign against Iran by Jundullah was on the agenda when Vice President Dick Cheney met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in February. A senior U.S. government official said groups such as Jundullah have been helpful in tracking al Qaeda figures and that it was appropriate for the U.S. to deal with such groups in that context. Some former CIA officers say the arrangement is reminiscent of how the U.S. government used proxy armies, funded by other countries including Saudi Arabia, to destabilize the government of Nicaragua in the 1980s. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jundullah undullah—also known as "Army of God", "Allah's Soldiers", and "God's Brigade" [1], as well as the Popular Iranian Resistance Movement [2]—is a Sunni "Pakistani tribal miltant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran." It is "made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran," Brian Ross and Christopher Isham reported April 3, 2007, for ABC News. The group, which "has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials", "has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News," Ross and Isham wrote. Following the February 2007 bombing attack on Zaheden, which lies in the southeastern Iranian province of Sistan-Baluchestan, bordering on both Afghanistan and Pakistan, Brigadier General Mohammad Ghafari "renewed Iranian accusations that Jundullah was receiving support from British and US forces in neighboring Afghanistan for its campaign of violence in Sistan-Baluchestan," David Eshel wrote in the March 2007 Defense Update. "CIA is supporting Iranian ethnic groups like sunni Balochs and Kurds inside Iran. Iranian relation with pakistan are becoming tense. Pakistan is playing role of surrogate for americans even though they hate this role. Jundullah a sunni militant group is getting full support of CIA," the blog my views about world as i see it (Dr. Sanghar) stated February 25, 2007. Because direct U.S. funding to the group "would require an official presidential order or 'finding' as well as congressional oversight, ABC News was told by tribal sources "that money for Jundullah is funneled to its youthful leader, Abd el Malik Regi, through Iranian exiles who have connections with European and Gulf states." [3] Regi "used to fight with the Taliban" and is "part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," according to Alexis Debat, a "senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant who recently met with Pakistani officials and tribal members," Ross and Isham wrote. "Pakistani government sources say the secret campaign against Iran by Jundullah was on the agenda when Vice President Dick Cheney met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in February," Ross and Isham wrote. "A senior U.S. government official said groups such as Jundullah have been helpful in tracking al Qaeda figures and that it was appropriate for the U.S. to deal with such groups in that context." "Some former CIA officers say the arrangement is reminiscent of how the U.S. government used proxy armies, funded by other countries including Saudi Arabia, to destabilize the government of Nicaragua in the 1980s," Ross and Isham wrote. "Jundullah is a purely militant outfit whose objective is to target Pakistan's pro-US rulers and US and British interests in the country. Members receive training in Afghanistan and South Waziristan, and it is now actively recruiting," Syed Saleem Shahzad wrote July 24, 2004, in Asia Times. "The organization produces propaganda literature, including documentary films, and has a studio named Ummat. It does similar work for al-Qaeda's media wing, which is called the al-Sahab Foundation," Shahzad wrote. "These media outlets incite the sentiments of Muslim youths by producing films showing Western - particularly Israeli and US - 'atrocities' against Muslim communities. This is the basic tool through which a new generation of jihadis is being raised. "Jundullah was allegedly headed by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the al-Qaeda operational commander of the September 11 terrorist attack in the US. He was arrested in Pakistan early last year," Shahzad wrote.
1. Having effective intelligence in place towards terroristic threats. 2. Analyzing and properly assessing such terroristic threats. 3. Generating action plans on materialization of a terroristic threat or specific tactics against us based on size and scope. 4. Institute and activate best action plan considered to engage the threat and/ or tactic. wash, rinse, repeat...
He just said he did ....."I call it a global war against terror." What's that Sishir?...o yea,...terror is tactics...got it!
Iran has contributed...greatly. We know Iran A.)willfully supports by training and other avenues, and possibly engages U.S. military personnel to undermine our operations in Iraq B.) When Iran supports the culture, the mindset of suicide bombing...it contributes to the threats of terror against us... C.) When Iran supports terroristic groups by shelter and monetary support considering the region, it influences the legitimacy of the group considering the religious common ground to neigboring states...say folks in Saudi... O yea, considering pre-emptive strikes, you must read up on Israels' bombing of the nuclear reactor in Iraq...talk about doing the world a favor...
I understood the war on terror when we invaded Afghanistan. Remind me again how Iraq was part of the war on terror?
It's obviously a war against Muslim extremists, but it would be politically incorrect and unwise to call it that.
The real question is: why so much emphasis on words? Whether it's called "War on Terror" or "The Global Struggle Against Jihadist Extremists" it doesn't change the policy. If you want to get 'technical', then no, it's not a "war on terror", at least not by the U.S. It's more of a war against anyone who targets our interests/civilians/etc. In that sense, it's nothing new. We've been fighting 'wars' or involved in conflicts one way or another since the post-Civil War era. The current policy might be a bit more cavalier than we're used to, but the objectives haven't changed.
'The Party' has a romantic love affair with war..open a history book,wait that might be a bad idea since none of the following will be there........ http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2003/09_september/11/wales_chile.shtml http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1891145.stm I could go on and on. this is why I'm so skeptical on the war on terror.
