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What is happening in Oregon?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by aussie rocket, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Please everyone answer this question....
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Cut off passage and any utilities to the building. Same thing you do when any armed idiot is illegally occupying a federal building.
     
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    Republican Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz has come out urging the armed protesters in Oregon to 'stand down'.

     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    That first part has already happened, the second part is an escalation that only makes the yahoos think that they are under siege.

    There is no impetus for an aggressive response. That may happen, but why not try to talk them down without violence and then throw them in Federal Court?

    Remember how the Justice Dept. handled the idiots in Waco and Ruby Ridge....
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Cutting off utilities isn't an aggressive response and it's certainly not violent.
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    It is to the idiots inside that building, and it makes them angrier, which increases the likelihood of violence (which has not happened yet). Do a little googling on hostage-type situations. Keeping everybody calm is Rule #1.

    Why escalate things if there is no threat to the public (people or places)?
     
  7. sammy

    sammy Contributing Member

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    ^are there hostages?
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    No....
     
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    That's a lot of destruction.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    No, it's not. Not at all. 130 acres is nothing as long as it's properly controlled.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Well nothing compared to what can happen if you don't do regular controlled burns. The ones that get out of hand can and have burned hundreds of thousands of acres in that region. They had one in 2012 that burned over 700,000 acres in Oregon.
     
  12. Space Ghost

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    Control burns are a very common thing.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    I know. I can't speak for the place, time or weather in that part of Oregon, but I do that same thing in Feb/March every 3 years or so in Texas. Few hundred acres here, few hundred acres there, few more hundred acres the next week. Fire is scary, but it can be controlled if you know what you are doing and plan it right.

    130 acres is not "destruction" is all I was saying.

    Rimrocker would be the best person to chime in on this.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Having fun beating up that straw man?
     
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    There's 640 acres in a square mile. 130 acres isn't even 1/4 of a square mile. That's really nothing.

    This is really a silly protest by the farmers. They are embarrassing themselves, especially with how unprepared they are.
     
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    White people don't attack nobody. They are harmless
     
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    I'm not too up on this story but I did read the 'burn' was to cover up evidence of poaching 3 deer from federal land, so the 130 acres are insignificant but the fact that it was prosecutable when the poaching wasn't was the reason it was pursed, like convicting Capone for tax evasion.

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  18. Buck Turgidson

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    Yeah I heard that too. Don't know the seasons in Oregon, it seems pretty extreme to cover up a couple of deer with a fire, hell if I know. It's so remote you'd think it would be easier to just haul them out and who's going to see you?

    It's beautiful country out there, I would recommend anyone that's up to it to hit the Bitterroot Wilderness in Idaho, Snake River. Boise's a great town, so is Missoula, Montana.
     
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    Thinking things through isn't allahusnackbar ya'llqaeda's strong suit.
     
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    Since this "sit in" involves a heavily armed group that has gone on record that they are willing to kill and be killed for their cause.
     

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