Good quesiton. If the laws of the land dictates that those are the parents of the child, tough sh** for the child really. If a man marries a woman and has a kid, but the man finds out he's really gay, divorces, then he moves in Lance his fabulous friend from college, kid's kinda stuck aint he...There wouldnt be joint custody but thats still a gay couple household he has to live in. If the kid was formerly from an abusive, neglectful, drug addled household before that, he better be thankful SOMEONE wants to take care of him. I know what you're saying, gays can't procreate so why should they be allowed to have ANYTHING to do with the result of procreation? Cuz its better a well-to-do gay couple take care of a child than the child remain in some impoverished 3rd world war ravaged country. I HATE doing that but what can be done about that... I'm glad you posted this. This is my EXACTLY my reasoning for not promoting gayness and PROTECTING the straight standard. I'm in another forum where this was brought up weeks ago (in a thread about that dude who was voted Prom Queen in his high school). I agree with alot of what you wrote actually. Myself I was theoritically and concievably mentioning what could happen if we encouraged gayness besides straight. Just mentioning a process and an end result of the process, as though everyone is 3rd grade comprehension. But you see the big picture.... You're asking my actual opinion on it all, if I ADVOCATE gay parenting - The best answer is no since I tend to lean on the conservative side of it like you. The difference being you're in absolute terms no exceptions, and I leave more grey area for exceptions. Gays (and trannies) should see for themselves that how they are can't ULTIMATELY be how it should be for everyone else. My compromise is for all the liberties they want, marriage and everything, they have to almost be forced (yes I said it) into compliance of straight standards. Do everyone as straight as possible except who do you in your own bedroom. I think thats fair. Especially when 2 gay people wanting a child are stuck and have to scrounge around for a sperm donor or surrogate straight mother to do the rest of the work for them. Straight people kinda have them by the balls there.
"My argument is to keep homosexual and heterosexual marriage seperate. Gay advocates are fighting for homosexual marriage, and if they succeed in that quest, I have to recognize their marriage as equal to mine, something I don't believe in, therefore, I am being forced to accept a view I completely disagree with. To make this less personal, and possibly more understandable, you could easily replace my/I with our/we and the majority of Americans would be our/we." I'm responding to your post quoted above, where you clearly wish to separate Gay Americans from the rest of the people of this country. You want them in the back of the bus. You want them to use separate bathrooms. You want them in "separate but equal schools." Hyperbole? Not hardly. You're pissed off at my post? Ordinarily, I'd be sorry you feel that way, because I'm using your own words to make the point that discrimination is discrimination, whether it is unequal rights for women, unequal rights for Blacks and other minorities, unequal rights for one religion vis-à-vis another, or unequal rights for Gay men and women. You can parse your words, or mine, all you want, but at the bottom of what you believe, in my opinion, is a desire to discriminate against Gay people in this country and, by extension, Gay folks around the world, and discrimination is wrong, no matter how you parse it, no matter how you slice and dice it, no matter how hard you attempt to make yourself think it is anything other than what it is... unequal rights for a large minority of American citizens. And that pisses me off, so I guess that makes two of us. And the most tragic thing about it, from my point of view, is that you are otherwise clearly a very intelligent person. Using the language of my younger days, that's a real bummer, dude, and not groovy at all. Chill and think about the 10%, at least, of this country that you are so willing to separate from the rest of us. Sorry, but I'm not goin' for it.