Well considering I will graduate with a psy degree means nothing. i dont have much options. i dont see myself working in hospitals or treatment centers. so my future is doubtful. psy is a popular major among college students these days. i want to know what the hell they did after graduation. grad is bs i agree but a master's degree could help me out considering im a minority and the fact that i have to work harder just to get looked at.
my sister got her BS in psych and she cant find a job. she wants to be a missionary so it shouldnt be too big of a deal for her. i got a BS in biochemistry and worked for a year in a lab, and now im actually making more money on my stipend by being in grad school and working towards my PhD. dont pay for grad school, make them pay you!
I'll put it like this, if you have nothing else to do and don't know your "career path" by your last semester, you might as well go to grad school because that beats a BS job you'll hate for the rest of your life. Maybe by then you'll find your way or stumble across something.
I don't know why you all say grad school is a waste of money. My girlfriend currently makes $24/hr. with a bachelors degree in a psych-related field, when she finishes her comps and gets a Master's she will make $42/hr. with full benefits. A Master's degree or grad school may be a waste in some majors but it is certainly not in others.
How old is she, how much experience does she have and I bet she works for a large company. Once again its all relative. I'm not saying its not possible to do it and make good money. I'm saying, I think its wiser in certain situations to gain experience instead of more education. I could give you many examples of people who dropped out of Highschool and College and are now millionaires, that doesnt mean that is the direct correlation.
Also, I know a lot of people currently making that with just their Bachelors. It is not a minus to have a Masters, I just think its not as much of a plus as some believe.
I'll bet if you did a study of high school dropouts compared to college and grad school graduates you would find out that the people who invested more in their education are better off. I'm not saying it always works out like that because there are some success and failure stories but I would be willing to be it works out better for the graduates most of the time.
Duh.....My original comparison was a Bachelors and a masters in psychology. No other field or education level. Do a study on specifically that and see who is better off....the person X with bachelor degree and 2 years of work and experience or the grad student straight out of college. The Bachelors with the 2 years experience (Considering you only spend two years in grad school) will more than likely pay off the same or more than the grad student. Inturn,(in this specific situation) making Grad school seem like a waste of time and money(including money that could be earned working and experience gained) to end up in the same place or behind person X.
Freshman (last) year wound up up with a 2.14. The weeknight trips to Austin and the whole never-going-to-class thing didn't exactly help. This year I hope to pull out an overall 2.8 (with lots of hard work) so I can transfer to North Texas next fall.
I'd say that statement is BS. If you want to work in the professional world, you have to have a masters to get your foot in the door. In a lot of cases, it's a minimum requirement. The state agency where my wife is an executive has a masters as the minimum for applicants, unless you want to be a secretary. Now, if you have had a lot of experience and, most importantly, know someone, you might get a position with a bachelors. It's tough. Sure, a doctorate is nicer to have. When has it not been? But a must-have? Only for certain professions, and in academia. A bachelors will serve a lot of people well, especially those with deep experience.
Which school are you at? I went to an Ivy wannabe many years ago, and anything under a 3.0 would have been considered atrocious. It really depends on the school. A Harvard 2.7 means you are brain dead, an athlete or a legacy admission whose job is already lined up regardless of how you did in school. But a UC Berkeley 2.7 means you're a victim/product of their official policy to offer fewer classes with larger enrollment and failing more students. It all depends.
I agree with this. If you're in the right (wrong?) field they might make you get degrees out the wazoo. But if you're in IT (like me) then you can drop out of college (like me) and make $25mil by 23 (not like me). Lack of a degree has never really hindered me. I have my IT certifications and experience and that's all that matters now.
What professionl world are you talking about? If its the one I think you're talking about, I disagree. If its the high class president of a corporation one then, you're right. But being that you said, "get your foot in the door", I assumed it wasn't. Certain professions may require a certain standard. Thats a giving, my point is on average, a bachelors degree with 2 years experience is just as good if not better than a masters. Once again, I am only refering to Psychology. In a lot of cases, a lot of things are minimum requirements. This isn't saying much. Agreed, but this is the case with any degree or no degree. I could say the same thing about a masters. Agreed, I stated this earlier.
after being a 3.5+ highschool student with good SAT scores I had a 1.7 first semester of college.(I blame the rockets, and every other forum that sucks the time out of a person, oh and also college/dorm night life) Ya, being put on Academic probation sure scares the crap out of a person. Havnt gotten less than 3.5 in any semester since(been 3 semesters since) and my overall GPA just got to 2.8 Dont screw up your first year, and ya, anything less than a 3 isnt gunna help much.
