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What if Aliens did Exist and the Government Knew?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. underoverup

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    i think that was steve perry.
     
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  2. MadMax

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    oh, i'm very well aware. :D but that completely contradicts the Jewish notion of God.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    There is only one reason for the gov't to keep alien's existence secret - and that's if the aliens were running the gov't. This is entirely plausible, because most of the time, the policies our gov't comes up with seems to be coming from outer space.

    But as someone has pointed out before, if Alien life was discovered - the people who witnesses it first hand, would be dying to get the evidence out and tell everyone in the world. Think about how it wall would have had to happen.

    1. Alien ship crashes in remote deserted location - how convenient.
    2. Alien, despite having advance enough technology to travel light years through space, doesn't have technology to make emergency landing in empty desert.
    3. Alien has no friends to come looking for him.

    Maybe the alien was a renegade, or fugative, running from the authorities, so couldn't call for help. Maybe it takes 25 years for the maday to get there and another 50 years for them to get back to earth. Maybe they figure, eh, not worth it, earth is too far....and they don't like Mikey D's.

    4. Alien has no technology to fight off random dudes with 1950 style guns / weapons.
    5. Alien might have died in crash...no air bag???
    6. Someone discovers alien - first thing he does - call's local TV station
    7. MP discover's alien, first thing he does is call superiors and let them know to keep discovery secret. NO! He calls his boss, hits the local bar, and says, "Guess what i found today"

    I am kinda tired....but here's a few more things

    8. If the military had alien technology - why do our fighter jets seem awfully unalien in sophistication and design???
    9. How come we haven't had a military plane go near faster then light speed.

    But maybe the alien tech has been incorporated into our products we use
    10. Is graphite composite materials really just alien technology? Perhaps we learned how to make better tennis rackets from the aliens who landed here.

    I think if a bunch of Aliens landed in washington you want to know what woul dhappen. Lol

    here's what would happen - people would wonder who did their special effects make up and got them to really look like aliens!
     
  4. SuperVon

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    Well, also in the same doc, they brought up the interesting idea that some scientist are actually looking at altering Human DNA in the future by adding ‘super genes’ that can be found in other species on Earth. The gene which a common Cockroach carries, the one that allows it to survive radiation to an extent could be used to help humans travel longer periods in space.

    The possibility of an Alien reaching Earth is rather far fetched for me. I mean, if they are able to create such advance forms of transport surely they would be able to prevent it from crashing.
     
  5. Shroopy2

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    Amino acids found in comet
    Thought it was interesting.

    If government already knows there's life that exists other than ours, why try so hard to send out a star craft to chase down comets for life origins?

    If the government for sure had real aliens, for political and image enhancement why not put the aliens on display in a big space museum for profit, like whats already done for dinosaur bones and such.
     
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  6. Rocket River

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    Humanity's Technology took a Quantum Leap in the last century.
    1899 - just discovering electricity
    1999 - have a rocket exiting the solar system

    Name another 100 Yr period where such a leap happened?

    Maybe they siphoning info from the Aliens

    Some times. . .the best lies are the biggest
    So big they are too incredible to beleive

    QUESTION: Who here trusts the government? So them hiding something would not be surprising.
    Since we know our government cannot keep a secret
    Are we to beleive the MOST ADVANCED WEAPONS ON THIS PLANET
    are already out and about. . . . easy seens and researched?
    There are NO GOVERNMENT secrets? Cause our government cannot keep one?

    Rocket River
     
  7. Rocket River

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    BTW how many years did it take for the information
    about the FBI secretly and illegally monitoring MLK and Malcolm X
    take to come out?

    DECADES!

    Rocket River
    not to mention Counter Intel Pro

    yea. .. they keep secrets rather nicely
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Well we have advanced technology to send probes to Mars yet can't prevent them from crashing. Considering the amount of compexity involved in any type of space travel it seems very plausible that even a very advanced technology could still crash.
     
  9. solid

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    The Congress is made of mostly aliens!
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    But most of our technology advances occured in the private sector. And besides, we've accelerated our innovations in things besdies technology too - business practices, organization, government, etc. Unless you mean the government is using millions of companies and individual innovators as fronts for the deployment of alien know-how.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't know this for certain but I bet the majority of our technological breakthroughs came about in the public sector (government research institutions, state universities and / or government research grants.)
     
  12. rhester

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    You forget about the electric guitar, probably our most cherished technology :)

    And what about the radar detector?

    Did you consider the XBox 360 or the PS2?

    Let's not forget the George Forman grill either. :D
     
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  13. JuanValdez

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    I would doubt it. Even so, for the purpose of discussing the dissemination of alien technology, I think we should consider state universities and research grants to be private sector activities simply because government can't exert enough control in these channels to effectively censor what they tell the world.
     
  14. Red Chocolate

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    Ask JFK what he thinks about this subject.

    I agree with Rocket River for the most part, the government (or shadow government) is pretty good at keeping secrets, and then eventually it leaks, but by that time people are so indoctrinated by propaganda or focused on other things that they don't care strongly.

    For ex: if news came out today that FDR knew about the Pearl Harbor attack but was told not to do anything about it, people would be angry, but nothing could be done about it, since it was 60+ years ago, and most people would say, "that's awful, but our current government would never do anything like that" and others just wouldn't care.

    I don't have any strong opinion on aliens, I know that if you take a strong psychedelic substance like DMT (dimethyltryptamine), you will often 'see' alien creatures and aspects of different possible dimensions, so who knows to what extent what we would be capable of comprehending if our brains were fully functional.

    I also think that those in the know would keep it a secret, as that knowledge could be used as leverage over the peons one day. Any attempt at whistleblowing would result in immediate death, heavy smearing ("that guy's a crazy!) and/or silencing through severe means. So, I don't think it's that unbelievable that it's been kept a secret, if certain people are aware that aliens exist.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    That is my Basic Point
    IT COULD HAPPEN
    I'm not saying it has but . .. it would not surprise me
    the government
    1. has shown it can keep secrets
    2. has shown it can discredit folx
    3. has shown it can eliminate folx
    4. has shown it can keep things out of the media it does not want there

    H*ll the media is so powerful a lot of Americans still think Obama was born in Kenya . . ..

    The machine is in place to keep such a secret
    Any whistle blowers are dismissed as crackpots and disgruntled ex employees
    or simply eliminated.

    Throw ole Ockums Razor out there and it will cut alot of theories
    Which is more Plausible. . . blah or blah

    Rocket River
    . . .and by time it comes out . . .no one is surprised
    hell we so apathetic these days . . would we even blink at it?
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Now that I think about it as far as total inventions I will concede that probably most have come from private sector but I would still guess that most of the major inventions have come from the public sector, and in this case I am taking a broad view of that. Consider that things like the Internet, computers and genetic engineering have all come about either wholly or partially from the government.

    If you are talking about control enough to keep quiet about aliens I agree with you on that.
     
  17. Invisible Fan

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    40 years is long enough for people to take that secret to the grave with them.
     
  18. orbb

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    That is, until the multi-pedal, jelly like mass of eyes tells you that he(?) was created in God's image according to his "bible".. which by the way is 104353533 years older than yours.
     
  19. MadMax

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    Since "in his image" has nothing to do with what we look like, I wouldn't doubt for one second there would be other creatures in the universe created in His/Its/Whatever's image. And that they would have their own revelations of Him/It/Whatever.
     
  20. Hydhypedplaya

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    ^ Thats exactly how I feel.
     

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