still waiting for your evidence. or are you gonna use tmac logic and assume crap like what if i played with a tim duncan.
why does any player decline? age, injuries, decline in athleticism, decline in skills...T-mac is no different. Except he's selfish and delusional on top of all that.
I made a post long ago about McGrady missing Orlando. Not going to look for the post, too vague and too far back. I said I wouldnt doubt that he takes a peek over at the up and coming Magic with Dwight Howard, then looks at his "lesser" Rockets setting and has some second thoughts. Not that he has regrets for leaving but I could see McGrady being a pouty homesick baby. Then later on when he made comments about not being able to play with Duncan and Shaq, you can connect it to meaning he could/should be playing where the better players are (Dwight Howard) and better setting is at (hometown Orlando). But then he says he wants to start and not be a 6th man. So as usual he's conflicted, and who cares what he says. And of course thats gonna affect his game preparation, or his game preparation results in that kind of stuff.
Well in that analogy you're saying the racing and off-roading is a side thing, not part of his job. Tmac's play and working out are part of his job...but the point is fans fail to see he had frame damage to begin with, factory frame damage. You can do all the maintenance in the world, but it's just a matter of time before that car starts falling apart. You'll wonder why its falling apart even with all the checkups and maintenance, and eventually you'll slack off because it doesnt seem to help. You're not going to take it to the best mechanics or the best shop because it doesnt seem worth it. that's what happened to tmac. He gave up on working hard because it didnt seem worth it with his condition. The more he got out of alignment due to muscle imbalances, the harder it became to work out and he just focused on playing mostly. There was no reason to question Wayne Hall's regimen because tmac didnt see working out as a big part anymore. Yes Tmac gets some blame, but the guy was set up to fall apart to begin with. I feel sorry for him more than anger or hate towards him. Remember he wasnt even suppose to last very long in the league, much less be an all-star and do what he did. If we want to be angry at someone, be angry at the people who make decisions for not evaluating tmac deeper prior to the trade, his scoliosis was no secret and the strength coach and trainer should have probably been suspicious, maybe they should have sopken up, maybe they did, who knows, but that's were the ball was dropped to begin with. If anything, tmac overachieved and in a way he's got to be proud for what he did accomplish.
RV - Tmac's injury woes were apparent before we traded for him, CD just hoped that we wouldn't be so unlucky, unfortunately we were doubly unlucky as nearly 60% of our salary were constantly undertaken by injuries. Clutchfans, you have to got to realize our team was doomed from the start? Tmac and Yao played fantastic when they were available, but the fact is their bodies, like RV said, just can't handle the NBA life year in and year out. Yao Ming is too large and Tracy just had too many prior medical issues. Stop blaming it on any other aspect of their game besides their proneness to injury and what kind of person knocks someone for being injured? Just another call for a shorter NBA season, 82 games is ridiculous, shorten it to 50 or so, I am sick of losing great players in Feb - April and not being able to compete in the May - June
not going to happen. only the strong survive dude. losing great players? which great players are you talking about? to me great players aren't made out of glass. from an economic standpoint, less games = less money, no way the nba would do that.
Go watch the 2004-05 T-Mac. He was SLIM. He gained that weight after that season, trying to do what Kobe did. Kobe beefed up, packed on muscle and his body could handle it. T-Mac's body however, couldn't. That's MY main reason behind his decline. There are more, but still.
I'm sorry, you can't compare those three to T-Mac, even in terms of injury. Mac isn't cut from the same cloth. Those three were way more durable than Mr. Injury Prone, T-Mac. Even Bird didn't get back problems till late stages of his career and we all saw how that effected him. Injuries just happen. Sometimes, you can't do much about it. Are Anfernee Hardaway or Ralph Sampson wusses because injuries played a major part in their careers? Are they wusses because they couldn't fight through injuries? Why do people even care what he says? Its TMAC! Is he mentally weak? Sure. Does he open his mouth too much? Sure. Wasted potential? Yes. Too honest for his own good? Definitely. But a wuss doesn't stand up for his teammates: <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/O21Nw3UxbE0&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/O21Nw3UxbE0&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/BCXB7cLbiFg&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/BCXB7cLbiFg&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> T-Mac may be a lot of things, but not a "wuss" (What is this middle school?). Anything negative he did in Houston was in correlation to an injury. When did a healthy T-Mac give us problems (aside from lack of playoff success)? Everybody's body is different and reacts differently to injuries and the healing process. T-Mac is not the first and won't be the last to never reach his full potential. Most of these fat boys on this site can't exercise hard enough to lose 10-15 pounds but they want to call out T-Mac for being a wuss about his injuries. HAHAHAHAHilarious.
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Good answer. Maybe if he was just honest and stop yappin his gums to every reporter and passing blame to everyone but himself, he might not be looked down upon as much. Just face facts and play hard. Stop with the excuses.
TMac's always got the big mouth. When he was a superstar people were OK with it. That's not the reason why he's no longer a star. His decline is definitely due to his injuries and the microfracture(!) surgery that he had. There have been numerous precedences of players never being the same after that surgery.
Hahaha. True you can put it that way. He definitely doesn't seem to enjoy playing through discomfort. He doesn't trust his body
The problems with T-Mac and his decline have always been the same: - Bad work ethic; I seriously think his rehab this year was the hardest he ever worked in his life, but at his age it came way to late to really matter much and the only reason he worked hard was because this is his contract year. - Low pain tolerance; the guy simply cannot play through pain. As a normal person, this wouldn't matter as much, but he is an athlete and that is his job. - Self-Delusion; T-Mac is the only person who thinks he is still a young T-Mac. The faster he realizes he has indeed fallen off, the sooner he can re-develop his game and continue playing in this league like Grant Hill. - Inability to shut up; this will ultimately be the downside of his career and if his agent is worth a damn, he should tell T-Mac to simply keep his mouth shut.
I remember reading an article in sports illustrated awhile back and the author pointed out how tmac got 12 hours of sleep a day when he was in toronto and orlando (partly) and he was one of the few nba players whose play didn't drop on the 2nd night of back to backs (due to his unusual sleeping paterns) but the author also pointed out since he had his 1st child he hasn't been able to get 12 hous and consequently his numbers (particularly effeciency) dropped all across the board.
His initial problem? The pain tolerance of a 6 year old girl Second problem? Laziness Third Problem? The combo of one and two (unwillingness to rehab properly from his 'scope before last season) led him to microfracture surgery, which pretty much ended it
major differences. Sampson was not injury prone until he got injured by another player in Boston. also both were known for their playoff team success. Penny for that Orlando team that went to the finals with Shaq and Ralph for the 86 team that shocked the Lakers. For Tmac it's not about 'fighting through injuries', it's about being truthful about them and dedicated to fixing them.
OK, either you ARE Tracy McGrady, or you're smoking some of the golden buddha. If its the latter, PASS THAT SH#T! Feel sorry for him?! Are you serious? Any die hard Rockets fan would never, ever feel sorry for McGrady. He set our franchise back several years. And "gave up on working hard?" No, he NEVER worked hard. Watch the interview of his high school coach. The coach said McGrady was the most talented player he's ever coached, but had no drive or work ethic compared to other players he coached. Sorry, but I have absolutely no patience for Tmac apologists. Or for people who question Kieth Jones, for that matter. He's the epitome of a great trainer.
