What has Hillary Clinton ever accomplished in life?

danny317 · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

Try googling the resume of McCain, Romney, or Giuliani. They all are superior.

While Hillary was celebrating Woodstock with the other hippies, McCain was resisting torture by the Vietnamese to save American lives. That says a lot right there. Quite a stunning comparison.
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romney would fracture to base of the republican party plus hes a flip flopper...

giuliani has better credentials but is flip floppin around also...

danny317 · Oct 23, 2007

better credentials than romney but probably not hillary.

mc mark · Oct 23, 2007

danny317 said:

giuliani has better credentials but is flip floppin around also...
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Not to mention JulieAnnie's mob ties, but that's another thread.

thegary · Oct 23, 2007

mc mark · Oct 23, 2007

Speaking of Hillary --

Clinton vows review of executive power

Hillary Clinton would launch a policy review as president with an eye towards giving up some of the executive powers accumulated by George Bush, she tells Guardian America in an interview today.

The New York senator and frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination also accuses the Bush administration's broad brush approach to terrorism of making it harder to understand "what it is we were up against", and expresses concerns about the attitude of the president's nominee for attorney general to interrogation and "expansive" executive power.

On the accumulation of White House power under the current administration, Ms Clinton said the president and Dick Cheney both had taken actions "beyond any power the Congress would have granted" and - even when congressional authorisation was possible - chosen not to pursue it "as a matter of principle".

"The power grab undertaken by the Bush-Cheney administration has gone much further than any other president and has been sustained for longer," she said. "Other presidents, like Lincoln, have had to take on extraordinary powers but would later go to Congress for either ratification or rejection."

Ms Clinton said the accumulation of executive power had put America into "new territory" because Mr Bush and the vice president had taken the view that were what previously extraordinary powers were now inherent powers that belonged to the White House.

"I think I'm going to have to review everything they've done, because I've been on the receiving end of that," she said. Ms Clinton stated it was "absolutely" conceivable that, as president, she would give up executive powers in the name of constitutional principle.

"That has to be part of the review I undertake when I get to the White House, and I intend to do that," she said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,331037800-124904,00.html

TeamUSA · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

Try googling the resume of McCain, Romney, or Giuliani. They all are superior.

While Hillary was celebrating Woodstock with the other hippies, McCain was resisting torture by the Vietnamese to save American lives. That says a lot right there. Quite a stunning comparison.
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Your president denied this during the primary.

jo mama · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

While Hillary was celebrating Woodstock with the other hippies, McCain was resisting torture by the Vietnamese to save American lives. That says a lot right there. Quite a stunning comparison.
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and while john forbes kerry volunteered to go to vietnam your precious bush was a male cheerleader. that too says a lot.

quite a stunning comparison, indeed!

the timing of this thread is impeccable. this seems to have been the limbaugh/hannity/oreilly talking point the last week or so - "what has she done". keep on parroting their talking points - trader want a cracker?

for the record, i am a registered republican and i will never vote for hillary.

B-Bob · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

Try googling the resume of McCain, Romney, or Giuliani. They all are superior.
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Based on what criteria? The font? The Book of Mormon? Serial monogamy?

thegary: that is just wrong, man. .... Is that her at Woodstock with the other hippies?

weslinder · Oct 23, 2007

mc mark said:

Speaking of Hillary --

Clinton vows review of executive power
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Great news! The first good reason to vote for Hillary, ever.

Of course we could elect Ron Paul and get the executive down to its Constitutional limits.

mc mark · Oct 23, 2007

weslinder said:

Great news! The first good reason to vote for Hillary, ever.

Of course we could elect Ron Paul and get the executive down to its Constitutional limits.
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agreed

Kinda throws a monkey wrench in the whole "power hungry Hilldabeast" smear huh?

jo mama · Oct 23, 2007

in all fairness to the thread starter i will try to answer his question...

like bush, she is against bringing the troops home from iraq.
like bush, she wants to attack/bomb iran.
like bush, she is pro-amnesty/open borders.
like bush, she is pro-north american union.
like bush, she shuts-out dissenters from public events.

sounds like your dream candidate jorge!

rimrocker · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

Try googling the resume of McCain, Romney, or Giuliani. They all are superior.

While Hillary was celebrating Woodstock with the other hippies
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OK, I'll bite. Let's see what she was up to during that timeframe. According to Wiki...

In 1965, Rodham enrolled in Wellesley College, where she majored in political science.[15] She served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans organization during her freshman year.[16][17] However, due to her evolving views regarding the American Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War, she stepped down from that position;[16] she characterized her own nature as that of "a mind conservative and a heart liberal."[18] In her junior year, Rodham was affected by the death of Martin Luther King, Jr.,[8] and became a supporter of the anti-war presidential nomination campaign of Democrat Eugene McCarthy.[19] Rodham organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley's black students for moderate changes, such as recruiting more black students and faculty.[20] In that same year she was elected president of the Wellesley College Government Association.[21][22] She attended the "Wellesley in Washington" summer program at the urging of Professor Alan Schechter, who assigned Rodham to intern at the House Republican Conference so she could better understand her changing political views.[20] Rodham was invited by Representative Charles Goodell, a moderate New York Republican, to help Governor Nelson Rockefeller’s late-entry campaign for the Republican nomination.[20] Rodham attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami, where she decided to leave the Republican Party for good; she was upset over how Richard Nixon's campaign had portrayed Rockefeller and what Rodham perceived as the "veiled" racist messages of the convention.[20]

Rodham returned to Wellesley, and wrote her senior thesis about the tactics of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky under Professor Schechter (which, years later while she was First Lady, was suppressed at the request of the White House and became the subject of speculation as to its contents).[23] In 1969, Rodham graduated with departmental honors in political science. Stemming from the demands of some students,[24] she became the first student in Wellesley College history to deliver their commencement address.[22] According to reports by the Associated Press, her speech received a standing ovation lasting seven minutes.[25][26] She was featured in an article published in Life magazine, due to the response to a part of her speech that criticized Senator Edward Brooke, who had spoken before her at the commencement;[8] she also appeared on Irv Kupcinet's nationally-syndicated television talk show as well as in Illinois and New England newspapers.[27] That summer, she worked her way across Alaska, washing dishes in Mount McKinley National Park and sliming salmon in a fish processing cannery in Valdez (which fired her and shut down overnight when she complained about unhealthy conditions).[28][29]
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Back from Alaska...

Rodham then entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.[30] During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center,[31] learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).[32][33] She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital,[32] and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.[31] In the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education;[34][35] Edelman would become a significant mentor to her.[35]

In the late spring of 1971, she began dating Bill Clinton, who was also a law student at Yale. That summer, she interned on child custody cases[36] at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein,[37][38] which was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes;[38] two of its four partners were communists.[38][39] The following summer, Rodham and Clinton campaigned in Texas for unsuccessful 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern.[40][41] She received a Juris Doctor degree from Yale in 1973,[8] having spent an extra year there in order to be with Clinton.[42] Clinton first proposed marriage to her following graduation, but she declined at the time.[42] She began a year of post-graduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center.[43] Her first scholarly paper, "Children Under the Law", was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973[44] and became frequently cited in the field.

During her post-graduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for Edelman's newly-founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts,[45] and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.[46] During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[47][48] Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,[32] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.[48] The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.[48]
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That's a bunch of impressive stuff for a young woman during that time in our history... and all this she did before she married Bill.

El_Conquistador · Oct 23, 2007

I suppose "Bush is worse" is the default answer when you have no answer.

Last I checked, Bush isn't running for re-election. So comparisons to him are rendered invalid. Those points fall. I do find it quite a stunning 180 degree reversal that the libs now hold Bush's credentials up as the measuring stick for their party's primary nomination. That is just astonishing.

Apparently, the libs are quite satisfied that they are supporting a candidate without any meaningful leadership roles and accomplishments in life. It will make for open season in the General.

HO HO HO

pgabriel · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

I suppose "Bush is worse" is the default answer when you have no answer.

Last I checked, Bush isn't running for re-election. So comparisons to him are rendered invalid. Those points fall. I do find it quite a stunning 180 degree reversal that the libs now hold Bush's credentials up as the measuring stick for their party's primary nomination. That is just astonishing.

Apparently, the libs are quite satisfied that they are supporting a candidate without any meaningful leadership roles and accomplishments in life. It will make for open season in the General.

HO HO HO
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as usual, hypocrisy is the issue.

mc mark · Oct 23, 2007

Poor Jorge

Will he lose his mind when "that woman" is sworn in as Commander in Chief?

Shall we take bets?

DonkeyMagic · Oct 23, 2007

jo mama said:

and while john forbes kerry volunteered to go to vietnam your precious bush was a male cheerleader. that too says a lot.

quite a stunning comparison, indeed!

the timing of this thread is impeccable. this seems to have been the limbaugh/hannity/oreilly talking point the last week or so - "what has she done". keep on parroting their talking points - trader want a cracker?

for the record, i am a registered republican and i will never vote for hillary.
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thats nice. but he didnt mention bush or kerry. he mentioned hillary and mccain. one track mind eh?

pgabriel · Oct 23, 2007

someone's slip is showing

pgabriel · Oct 23, 2007

I can always count on the "waaaa, no one said bush waaaa" post

mc mark · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

Apparently, the libs are quite satisfied that they are supporting a candidate without any meaningful leadership roles and accomplishments in life. It will make for open season in the General.

HO HO HO
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What's really funny is that no one here as far as I can see is supporting Hillary as a candidate.

HE HE HE

GladiatoRowdy · Oct 23, 2007

Trader_Jorge said:

This is very telling so far. Not a single accomplishment listed. Still waiting.

Would Hillary be elected if all the candidates' names were left off their resumes and you were asked to judge by their accomplishments?
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Would Bush have been?

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