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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

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    What?

    Who is fighting to be treated as Black Americans?
     
  2. Wattafan

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    I don't like this argument.
    Unemployment among black people was at its lowest point ever before the pandemic - an achievement Trump was proud of. Iow, things were looking up and getting better.
    3 of the 4 jobs I have had here had black or hispanic hirers.
     
  3. peleincubus

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    Well, I don't know what to tell you. Everything I stated I have seen statistics to back it up. I am not making an "argument"

    As a side note, every single job I have had has had Hispanic and black hires....

    Here you can read until your heart is content. I correlated it to studies from 2020...

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?...ring+black+workers&hl=en&as_sdt=0,44&as_vis=1
     
  4. peleincubus

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    also after skimming 3 of those studies just now. one paragraph stated has the hiring pool gets smaller and smaller statistically have a higher chance of being selected for hire or promotion because at that point it is harder to be selective. but once the pool is larger (seemingly in a downturn in the economy people fall back on stereotypes on who the better worker would be)
     
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  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    How are black people's rights being undermined on a Jim Crow level? Not how bad Jim Crow wqs but on a numbers level?
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    People like the writer who considers current America as a "white supremacist cisheteropatriarchy".

     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @Major
    Lets back up. Are you arguing that the the Voting Rights Act didn't make a difference?

    Can you name an injustice today equivalent to Southern blacks in 1963 trying to vote?
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    A random traffic cop knows my privilege?
     
  9. jiggyfly

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    Where did the author say they are fighting to be thought of as Black Americans instead of Americans.

    And why are you lending any credence to this author?
     
  10. basso

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    i work for a major international company, +60k employees globally. we have co-leaders, one of whom is black, the other a gay man.
     
  11. Amiga

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    I believe this is the full video, about 3 mins longer

     
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  12. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    World got worse when MJ left

     
  13. Amiga

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    This is a quote from the video.

    "And, you know, people continue to refer to this (the civil right movement of the 60s), but I saw it. I saw men and women stand with courage and integrity and class and they changed the world. They changed the world because what the world could see in them was the lie that was being told about them."

    Let be reminded of what the US think of MLK and the civil right movement in the 60s:

    https://time.com/5099513/martin-luther-king-day-myths/

    In 1963, most Americans disapproved of the event, many congressmen saw it as potentially seditious, and law enforcement from local police to the FBI monitored it intensively (under code name Operation Steep Hill).

    The civil rights movement was deeply unpopular at the time. Most Americans thought it was going too far and movement activists were being too extreme.

    Nationally, white people’s support of the civil rights movement continued to be low throughout the 1960s. In 1966, a year after Selma and the passage of the Voting Rights Act, only 36% of white people said King was helping the cause. Eighty-five percent of white people surveyed said that demonstrations by Negroes on civil rights hurt the advancement of that cause, while 30% of black respondents felt the same. Seventy-two percent of Americans had an unfavorable view of King.

    While many people of all races admired King and Parks in the 1960s, the majority of Americans did not and found the civil rights movement both wrong and unnecessary.

    Activists like King and Parks were reviled, red-baited and called extremists in their own time. On the Selma-to-Montgomery march, in 1965, White Citizens’ Councils had plastered huge billboards along the route in which King and Parks were pictured attending a “Communist training school” (actually Highlander Folk School).
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/20920/martin-luther-king-jr-revered-more-after-death-than-before.aspx

    in 1966 -- the last Gallup measure of King using this scalometer procedure -- it was 32% positive and 63% negative.​

    While MLK was grounded in non-violence, the propaganda machine was successful in associating violence with him and calling him an extremist and a communist. Here is one example:

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    Back to the video from DeBerry. The speech was about a TN law for enhanced penalties during protests (for assault against "first responders" and damage to property). It passed easily, with those against it having concerns about using the law as an excuse or abuse of power to suppress the right of peaceful protesters. Two Democrats voted for it, one Republican voted against it.

    Let also be reminded that in TN, protests have been going on for months, with little national coverage, because it's mostly peaceful. There has been some property vandalized (and of course, blames on BLM while the local BLM leaders said it doesn't represent them and distract from their message and mission).

    Let also bring this back to the national stage. Biden has condemned the violence and the riots by any and all numerous time, starting months ago. Trump refused to do the same.




     
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  14. glynch

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    What has happened? Folks lie Basso have gone from merely "owning the libs" and believing in trickle down and all poor and lower middle income folks are lazy to following Dear Leader into craziness.
     
  15. CCorn

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    White people love protests as long as they were gilmer in black and white
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    Same can be said of mass incarceration.
     
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  17. Ubiquitin

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    I don’t even know.

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