How does the high post nullifies the inside thread of Yao's? Yao still gets his touches when he has good position. After the high screen. Part of the high post is to find cutters which our guards are having a problem doing, specifically our injured T-Mac. Adelman's team did not choke. The Kings was a great team that lost due to the referees. And it's not like Jeff's team won any championships. I thought they will be no hate for Rick, but man...
Adelman went away from that offensive set last year and let the offense work through Yao in the post. I think with the acquisition of Artest and another year under Yao and McGrady's belt he had hoped to be able to implement that offense again. Seeing it fail, he has dumped the ball in the post more frequently now the past couple of games, so I think he knows what works best for his players. All this while having the Rockets hold down a 9-5 record despite all the struggles so far. The offense does run a lot better on the bench with a faster lineup despite being inferior talent wise. Our bench is pretty explosive which I do think is because of the Princeton offense. He knows it works for them. He also is aware it doesn't work for our starters that well. True but this did come at the expense of getting easy buckets by fast breaks. He forced everyone to man up and grab boards instead of having some already break down the court. This caused a slow walk down half court and a methodical offense that relied on a handful of set plays to run. Also JVG's defensive strategy was pretty stubborn. For example against the Jazz in the playoffs he never once implemented a zone defense or came up with a defensive scheme to cover up with Yao's weakness out in the perimeter. Also JVG picked out players that suited his coaching style. He did not adapt to theirs. We were stuck with aging veterans that listened to him, but made us a slower team. That's why I said lesser version of Phil Jackson's philosophy. He did get to the Finals only to lose against the Bulls. He did push the Lakers to their limits in Sacramento, and should have gotten the Kings to Finals if it wasn't for a god awful officiated game 6 in the Western Conference Finals. It's the same way that JVG is a lesser version of Pat Riley. The first real disciplinarian that brought about ugly ball in the 90s. Riley won it all. JVG hasn't. Same philosophy. Lesser success.
only someone who hasn't been watching the rockets anytime they play a small ball team would say something like this. any time yao sees a fronting defense, he is completely neutralized and becomes a liability. everyone knows the answer to yao = fronting. to be fair, i havent seen us have much greater success under adelman than we did in the jvg era, but we did get a solid win against last year against the warriors with yao and no tmac, a warriors team that has always given us trouble. and i at least see adelman trying to get more creative on offense in order to counter the fronting defenses instead of just force feeding yao in the post.
it's day and nite; i too hope that he goes back to the low-post True but this did come at the expense of getting easy buckets by fast breaks. He forced everyone to man up and grab boards instead of having some already break down the court. This caused a slow walk down half court and a methodical offense that relied on a handful of set plays to run. zone would better work for teams that are quick and athletic. JVG's Rox were not athletic. he knows he team, and thus adapt strategic that would suit them best. JVG/Riley analogy works. but not the other one.
You could say that JVG had no talent outside of Tracy and Yao, but by the same token you could also say that Adelman inherited damaged goods in Tracy and Yao. Usage rates through the roof, and PER's declining each of the past three years. I wonder why... There's a very good argument to make that JVG was the Dusty Baker of basketball. A guy like Yao Ming simply was not made to take the beating that JVG imposed on him night in and night out by never leaving the post. Adelman plays him more minutes, but a lot of those are low exertion minutes. Yao doesn't have to come out on the pick-n-roll anymore; he doesn't have to bang in the paint for 15 seconds on each possession, and he certainly doesn't have that blue-in-the-face look where he's doubled over and his head is about to touch the ground right before he's about to attempt a free throw. Like I said though, it all depends on how you view things. Neither coach has had success so far, so you can't really make any judgments yet.
When the players get into things and develop the chemistry, Adelman's offense looks gorgeous. People had the same complaints about it in the beginning of last season. But once January hit, they disappeared. The type of ball the Rockets played during the streak is Adelman's type of ball. It's a kind of ball that everyone on the team needs to consciously decide to play. Right now, they're dribbling too much and playing a lazy game. But come Jantober/Febtember, watch out.
it's threat If u don't know now, u'll never know. ur just a parrot for choker. the games were not decided by referee's call. they were decided by the players. the referees did not treat the basketball like a hot potato, in the waning minutes of close playoff games, not wanting to shoot, which the top 4 options (Webber, Peja, Bibby, Miller, Divac or B Jackson) of the Queens did. these 4 chokers deferred to the team's 5th option on the floor, Christie, shooting in crunch time. Great teams have their #1 or #2 option shooting in crunch time. nor the referees blow their defensive assignment, in the closing second of a playoff game, leaving a proven clutch shooter like Robert Horry alone for an open game-winning shot, which C Webber did JVG's team always play great defense. defense is work, lots of it. his team played hard and never choked, which Idleman's teams habitually did
I am not knocking Adelman's previous coaching except his history of killing centers. His previous teams hit two of the best teams in history in the middle of a three peat. I am talking only about what I see here. And what I see here is less effort on defense, less rebounding effort, and less commitment and effort to running the plays. On offense he has put out some serious stinker games.
i'd call losing to the mavericks in a 40 pt blowout game 7 after being up 2-0 with the series headed home a choke job. i also question your understanding of the word 'habitual.' and while you're correcting other people's spelling, it's "you're," not "ur"
Well our roster back then was total crap and it was only a matter of time before it fell apart. Ryan Bowen cannot stop Dirk for 7 games and when your bench is a big fat 0 you are gonna get it sooner or later.
Thanks for ignoring my other part about the high post. Yao still gets his touches after he sets his high screen. You know... the couple of other sentences I wrote after that part. Thanks for correcting the word threat. I'd also like to correct that after sentences you put a period after one. And if you are writing someone's first name as an initial, you put a period. For example, you'd write C. Webber, not C Webber. And that goes with any initials, so JVG should be J.V.G. Now seriously... there is no need to put grammar/spelling mistakes into our arguments. And now for your chocking argument. Like the previous poster wrote, losing 40 points in a Game 7, is choking. He didn't want to change, while a rookie coach out coached him by simple changing his game plan. Just plain and simple. Jeff was the superior coach compare to Avery, except Avery changed his gameplan for the better of the team. Jeff in the other hand decided not to, and in return we lost in a series where we were up 2-0. Not to mention those two games were on the road.
Rox couldnot stop Dirk, he was the only reason the Mavs won. once Dirk caught fire, there was no stopping him. and when your teams chokes more than once in a series, which Adelmans team did, it's habitual.
how does that change the fact that the rockets lost a 2-0 lead going home? it doesnt matter how they lost it, they still lost it. so the other team's best player played really well. surprise surprise. im pretty sure jordan and kobe had pretty good games against adelman's team that caused them to 'habitually' choke too. think before you write please.
Are you saying the 40 point loss was not a choke job? I guess once Michael Jordan went on fire, there was no stopping him as well. Poor Rick, he played against the wrong player just like Jeff did. And... if you are still into grammar/spelling mistakes, it is Rockets not Rox. Also couldnot is not a word; maybe you meant could not or couldn't. And once should have a capitalized O. Same with and. And an ' should be added after Adelman and before the s.
can u read? Dirk caugh fire, no one could stop the fire. it does matter. if someone wants to know what choking is, show them the video of the Queens' top 4 options on the floow, in the waning minutes of a close playoff game, passing the hot potato to the 5th option in crunch time. C Webb leaving a proven cluth shooter Rober Horry, in the waning second of another close playoff game, open for a game-winning shot.
It was total crap because he chose players that fit his coaching style, instead of adapting to better talent that might actually have to adapt to. Zone sucked for his defense because they were slower and less athletic than other teams. Know why? Those are exactly the type of players he loved to coach. Players that took orders easily at the expense of athleticism and potentially being better in the long run. He was hard headed on stuff like this. It was an example that it was holding the team back. If he had no choice in the draft picks I'll concede that it wasn't his fault. If he had no choice in the players he had on his roster then I'll concede it wasn't hit fault. But he brought in over the hill Knick players, veterans that were on the verge of retirement, and unathletic veterans that may be head coaches one day, but definitely aren't going to help bring about a better core of players to make the job easier for Yao and McGrady. And its debatable that he overworked Yao and McGrady and possibly even shortened their careers.
Again, you ignored the other parts of the poster's post. He talked about Kobe and Jordan catching on fire as well. So I guess those don't matter or are you just ignoring them because you don't have an answer? If you want to know what another type of chocking is, watch Game 7 of Dallas Mavericks verse Houston Rockets of 2004 Playoffs. Great times huh? Remember where our top two options could not score at all? Remember how our number 3 option decides to get mad and get ejected? Remember our top player helplessly crying? Remember? Or how about the other Game 7 we lost. Remember the boards that Yao Ming could not get? Remember that wide open 3 pointer Tracy could not make?
