What happens when you mix 3/5 of a lottery team with 2/5 of a marginal playoff team?

I don't understand why people dump on this trade because we won't be Championship favorites next season. This trade isn't about becoming a champion next year. It's about building the foundation to contend for the next ten years. With Yao and Mcgrady as the foundation, then we mix and match role players and build chemistry until we become a big time contending team.

 

Though I think Maggette has a slight edge on Cat, would it be fair for you to change your statement to read top 10?

Also, the best thing about Cat has been his price-tag. Now that Doc has insinuated that Cat is going to opt out next year, that really changes things in my mind.

 

YM is 23
TM is 25

Clearly if the Rox don't win next year, the trade is a disaster.

This team will need a couple of years to get out from under the bad contracts of MT and Spoon.

This is why getting Barry is a mistake.

By the time the Rox get their payroll in order, he'll be too old.

They should go after a PG who is still in their 20s.

 

If you really look at one thing we are getting Juwon Howard who is basically the same as Mo Taylor with a bit of an edge rebounding wise and that is about it.

I am pretty sure the rockets are going to deal one or the other in a deal to bring somebody to houston that we really need.

I do'nt think the T-Mac trade is the only one that is going to be going down this off season.

 

I was going to respond to this thread, but then saw Jeff's post and felt there wasn't anything left to be said. Well put Jeff. Definately worth a re-read.

 

What made you think they would be done making moves?

And in sports, 1+1 doesn't always equal 2. The sum of the parts can be much greater...or less than...expected. It's called 'team'.

And a simplistic example of how a trade could make 2 winners out of 2 losers: a team with 2 quality centers and 2 quality pt guards trades with a team with 2 quality 2's and 2 quality 3's. That also should be obvious.

 

don't be short-sighted...this trade just isn't about next year. it's about having two very good, very young players and keeping them together for a while...building pieces around them.

if the rockets aren't world champs next year, i don't want to hear people saying, "see...we should have kept steve." that misses the point entirely.

 

That is a very narrow view. I don't really think it matters where they came from. Has T-Mac ever had a dominant center to play with? We don't know what the chemistry is going to be like. What were Phoenix and New Jersey before the Jason Kidd trade? One was a marginal playoff team. The other was periennial lottery. Same goes for the Pistons picking up Rip Hamilton. Washington...not very good.

All I am saying is that you can't simply add 3 + 2 to get 5. There are other factors.

 

He is in the top five most selfish Shooting Guards in the NBA!

 

dude - you're mixing 2/5 a playoff team (JJ and Yao) with the BEST 2/5 of a lottery team (Howard and T-mac were 50% of the Magic's offense) and then you're adding a PG

Lue will not be playing here (he will opt out and the Rox will bring in a FA PG)

 

I seem to remember these configurations:

O'Neal, Bryant, Fox, Fisher, Walker

Jordan, Pippen, Paxson, Grant, Cartwright

Olajuwon, Thorpe, Maxwell, Smith, Horry

Duncan, Parker, Bowen, Robinson, Jackson



Ming, McGrady, Barry, Taylor, Clark? Sounds good to me.

 

Call me a sunshine ass, but that's not the best way to assess it.

1. We are trading 3 flawed players (b-ball IQ, b-ball IQ, no offense) for one complete player who at worst is the #2 SG in the league and one flawed player.

2. We are trading a star who didn't really want to be here and didn't really like his coach that much, plus a player who was so undervalued that he is rumoured to be opting out of his contract next year for a superstar who wants to be here.

3. He who gets the best player in a trade wins. Is that really even in question here?

Sure, we are giving up depth - but depth can be added. Top-tier talent is VERY hard to come by.

 

LOL. Then what happens when you mix 3/5 of a marginal playoff team with 2/5 of a marginal playoff team?

MARGINAL PLAYOFF TEAM FOREVER?

 

CD's not stupid, hes making this trade knowing he wil have his trade exeption still which he will use to get a new PF or PG, & we will most likley sign a low cost back up center.

 

Read this. Learn this. Live this.

 

Magette? Stackhouse? Rickey "Shoot at my own basket." Davis? You have got to be joking. I would say that Cat is right at the level of Rip Hamilton, Michael Redd, Latrell Sprewell and Ron Artest. He is at a level below Iverson, Allen, Bryant, Pierce and McGrady.