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What happens to Palin & McCain?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. leroy

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see him run again, but he might just be too tired at this point.

    We're talking about the state that has apparently re-elected a felon for Senate. They will probably vote for her when she runs to fill Stevens place after he's kicked out of Congress.
     
  2. yaoluv

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    I think palin tries out 2012 and becomes kind of a fringe candidate like huckabee
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Ted Abramoff appears likely to be re-elected: which means the people of Alaska are f*****g nuts, and that Witchhunter could probably keep getting re-elected to Governor and running for President ad infinitum.
     
  4. juicystream

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    McCain will run for one more term and probably win. I think he is one of the few assets in the Republican party. He will be a Maverick without the burden of the conservative base. I like McCain a lot, and I think he is an asset to this country.

    I will make no judgement of Palin. I think she has been treated unfairly, but to what degree. I think she will run and win a seat in the Senate. I don't see her running in 2012 on the Presidential ballot. Very few people expected Obama to run in 2008 and most didn't think he was ready, and now he is the President Elect.

    There is no reason to believe their political careers are over.
     
  5. Wild Bill

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    McCain will probably be better off back in his more natural role as a centrist senator. Nothing was more painful to watch than his convention speech. To me, it was ovious that he forced to take more conservative positions to rally the base.

    In my opinion, Palin would be great in the House of Representatives. She is the conservative version of Nancy Pelosi. Her combative style is a little too aggressive for the the Executive branch or the Senate. If not, she would be better served with more local experience to develop her debating skills. Towards the end of the campaign, her stiff-necked style got old, even to me. Libral women are often described by conservative commentators as shrill. If those commentators were honest, I think they would have to describe Palin as the same.
     
  6. leroy

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    The more and more I look at Palin, the less I think she was treated unfairly. I will grant that the early attacks on her children were way beyond unfair. But to look at her strictly as a politician and see anything but Bush with long hair and nice legs is completely fair. She could not grasp that the Rove kind of politics was not going to win. I think it forced McCain to play along so that it wasn't so apparent that she was chosen without even the slightest bit of vetting.
     
  7. B-Bob

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    I would NOT rule out a role in Obama's administration just yet. Call me crazy.
     
  8. Dubious

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    You are full tilt bozo crazy.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    Agree with this. The whole thing just didn't feel right to me while I watched it. It wasn't the John McCain I thought I knew.

    It makes you wonder if the 2000 version of John McCain (with a different VP...) would have fared better in this election. Of course, he probably wouldn't have got the nomination in the first place, but I’m just thinking hypothetically.
     
  10. Lil Pun

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    I hope Joe the Plumber completely disappears!
     
  11. juicystream

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    I wish he would, but it probably would never happen. Who Obama appoints in the administration will go a long way toward showing if he is really going to unify America.
     
  12. A_3PO

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    I believe Mitch McConnell has said Ted Stevens will NOT be seated in the Senate. He is toast. Palin will run for the seat and maybe win after he resigns.

    McCain will end his political career in 2010. I can't see him running for re-election at age 74 after losing a presidential election. He has no future, only a long and distinguished past. From what I've read, it can take years and years to get over losing a presidential election and I think a guy like McCain will take it harder than most.
     
  13. B-Bob

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    We have big agreement on this point. Partisan presidents always fail.
     
  14. juicystream

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    It is the horrible truth of it. McCain could have never had this opportunity if he didn't do something to please the rest of the party. When I first started hoping he would run in 2008 back in 2004, I had people telling me he just is too liberal to receive the nomination even though he would probably be a good president to have. I hate how the system does that. It doesn't really matter anymore though.
     
  15. Dubious

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    True, so you not really crazy.

    But the people that sacrificed their lives to work for Obama for the last two years aren't going to have anything to do with man that made William Ayers the focus of the campaign.
     
  16. juicystream

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    I as a conservative hope they do force him out. He is another black-eye on the Republican party right now. He should have resigned months ago. I'd rather there be a democrat in that seat than him.
     
  17. Smokey

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    If Elizabeth Dole can be a Senator, Sarah Palin can be one too.
     
  18. Wild Bill

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    I have to tell you as a conservative, I believe the GOP nominating process favors more moderate to liberal candidates. By the time the conservatives had a chance to vote, the most conservative candidates had already dropped out. I think if the order of primaries favored the most loyal voting states, the GOP candidate would have been much more conservative than a guy who looked to be in pain as he pandered at the convention.

    BTW, not withstanding Obama's acheivment, I think the Democrats would be better served with this approach as well.
     
  19. Ikorose

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    She'll be a Jeopardy answer.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    Is the shotgun wedding now off?
     

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