What Explains the Images of Destruction from Lebanon.

Yes. I'm sorry as well, nobody is perfect.

 

Wow... if only Israel and the Arab world could see what we're doing, we may have world peace. One can only dream I suppose.

 

Happy? No! I am longing for settling the score with you on the sticky rice wrappers. The survey says bamboo leaves are preferred choice.

 

So peace time was nice while it lasted... sigh...

 

Surrender accepted. I feel better now.

Peace.

 

Mo what?

The International Commission of Jurists [3], A non-governmental human rights organization, concluded that Tibet in 1913-50 demonstrated the conditions of statehood as generally accepted under international law. In the opinion of the commission, the government of Tibet conducted its own domestic and foreign affairs free from any outside authority and countries with whom Tibet had foreign relations are shown by official documents to have treated Tibet in practice as an independent State. [4] [5].

The United Nations General Assembly passed resolutions urging respect for the rights of Tibetans in 19591353 (XIV), 19611723 (XVI), and 1965 2079 (XX). The 1961 resolution, in the opinion of the Tibetan Government-in-exile, asserts that "principle of self-determination of peoples and nations" applies to the Tibetan people.

The International Commission of Jurists [3], A non-governmental human rights organization, concluded that Tibet in 1913-50 demonstrated the conditions of statehood as generally accepted under international law. In the opinion of the commission, the government of Tibet conducted its own domestic and foreign affairs free from any outside authority and countries with whom Tibet had foreign relations are shown by official documents to have treated Tibet in practice as an independent State. [4] [5].

The United Nations General Assembly passed resolutions urging respect for the rights of Tibetans in 19591353 (XIV), 19611723 (XVI), and 1965 2079 (XX). The 1961 resolution, in the opinion of the Tibetan Government-in-exile, asserts that "principle of self-determination of peoples and nations" applies to the Tibetan people.


You know what is sadder to me than a drooling nose pick eatin' r****d, it's a seemingly intelligent person who doesn't see that there are many interpretations of any truth and seldom is anyone with an unwavering dogma correct in their view. Usually the bluster is to convince themselves of their own rightiousness in the face of their own doubt.

Free your mind wnes, I don't know why you want to tilt at windmills on an American BBS anyway.

 

I'll take bet that wnes IS American.

 

The superior master has spoken, 30 years of average life-span is good enough for those low-life slaves.

 

Oh my His freakin' Holiness, is this the best you can do?

You copied two paragraphs, verbatim, from the subsection "The view of the Tibetan Government-in-Exile" in wikipedia on Tibet, without giving a link to the reference, and pasted (oh btw, I promise not to make fun of the junks such as "19591353" and "19611723" in your post) them here not once, but twice -- like all moronic trolls would do -- to "prove" Tibet is a country?

Did you miss a subsection called "The Chinese view" in the same article? Did you know the Chinese view includes not only the view of red commie PRC, but also that of U.S. ally ROC in Taiwan? Moreover, even if the view of PRC is not worth consideration, did you intentionally or not miss another subsection entitled "Third-Party views", which says:

I have to admit I reget I called you a moron, because that amounts to an insult to all morons -- dead or alive -- in the world.

This applies to you perfectly, as your own action demonstrates.

I have lived my life extensively in two vastly different countries, I received advanced educations both in my birthplace and here in good ol' USA, and I experiened the best and worst of two worlds. My ideology is far from fixed to either partisan wingnut of left or right. You, on the other hand, remain brain-washed, bigotted, and close-minded all your life.

Huh, what is this, xenophobia or McCarthyism?

 

Chinese American, Jewish American..what's the difference? The point is, I bet he is American, thus makes the "American BBS" combined with "open your mind" remarks a bit laughable.

There have been enough threads about this, and I've largely made my view known. I don't think it's in the best interest of this thread to further derail it with another Tibet debate.

I will say this. China could have choose to let Tibet go, just like it has choose to let other territories go. I won't have too much trouble with that. I also understand some of Tibetians national aspiration just like many other ethnic people in other nations. China however chose to consolidate the power over Tibet, and it's widely accepted internationally. Some of the things that happened in Tibet was regretable, as with many other things in China's past. However, things in Tibet as all things in CHina are looking better. It only fits anti-chinese agenda, or ignorant people to bring up Tibet everytime there is mention of China.

 

Yes I copied wikepedia, I forgot to cite but I figured it was obvious since Google and wikipedia are becoming ubiquitous, Frankly that's all the effort I cared to expend on the subject. Of course there are two views on Tibet ergo having one of them does not constitute being a moron. I wouldn't have called you names other than 'misguided' in your passion.

I just don't know what you want to accomplish posting endless threads with all your counter western views on a Basketball BBS. The D&D is just masturbation and you masturbate so vigorously. Nobody here has any influence on world events. You may piss some people off, you make yourself pissed off but you aren't accomplishing anything. You just look like a single minded shill. I sometimes imagine that you and Creepy are tucked away in a cubicle in some military post across the sea, a part of someones' laughable idea of a war of information against western values. Dude, this is just playtime.

For the record, I think sum total of human civilization is sadly absurd and probably unavoidably on an path to mass suffering. There is no ideological purity, no clear path to salvation. Certainly none that you can exhort from a BBS.

When I said "free your mind" I meant try to understand that truth is dependent on the point of view of the observer. You need to understand your own biases and those of your audience. To be too dogmatic shows passion but a lack of wisdom.

 

Really?

So, do all the Tibetan kids get to attend school?

Do Tibetans have the same rights as Chinese?

 

If that's all you can do don't expect people take your post seriously, because you clearly didn't even read your own post after you did the silly copy and paste. Having two (well there are three in this case if one wants to nitpick) views doesn't mean each view is and should be weighed equally. The views from a neutral third party here carry in essence more weight to a curious bystander. You can argue everything also has two sides but in real world it ain't so. Texas is part of the U.S. no matter you agree or not. Same goes with Tibet. The historical facts support my view. No matter how disgruntled TI group wanted to deny. Heck, as the cited reference show, even some of the die-hard Dalai Lama supporters admitted legality is not on their side. Look, if you want to engage in serious debate, show it with you post. Don't just throw in garbages you don't even care to expound on. The sign of a troll is all over you, to be quite honest.

Well, the same advice (I actually think it's a good one) suits everyone, including yourself.

Now you are being silly again. Your view is not any more American than mine. Moreover, Western view is not just American view. This just shows your narrow-mindedness.

There is a lot truth to that. That's the good part. Unfortunately, it's the only insightful stuff you have written in the entire exchange.

I am hardly dogmatic. Thanks for another nonsensical label. We are debating on historical facts and but not on philosophy. I don't think I ever quoted anything straight from PRC propaganda machine in D&D. The label bounces back to you sir. You know black maybe grey to some, but it can never be white. While I freely accept the possibility of greyness if a convincing case is made out of that, you just simply stick to the "white" dogma, so to speak.

 

May be he meant they can coexist in the afterlife

 

I may have missed something, but aren't "Tibetans" also Chinese?

Tibet was never internationally recognized as a 'state', it's really a non-issue. If you want to make a big deal of it, then you will have to start breaking up almost every single sovereign state in the world today; China doesn't stand out in that regard. In fact, you could apply the same silly argument to the USA and how it came about.

Singling out China in that regard is quiet silly, which leads me to question the real motive behind those who insist on bringing it up, especially when it's off-topic.

 

How I'm not surprised you show up.

Do you mean whether all the Tibetan kids get to attend school? I don't know. Do all American kids get to attend school?

Believe it or not, Tibetans in China has way more rights than Arabs in Israel. In fact, they have more rights than Han Chinese in some aspects.

Satisfied?

 

Well, most Americans can admit what we did to the indigenous people here was wrong- thinking were saving them from their "savage ways" especially through Christianity etc. I don't see the same attitude coming from the Chinese. I see many still believe in their propaganda, stereotypes and genocide. They are obviously very defensive about it.

Killing is not off topic. It's at the very heart of the matter. It's brought up to those who support one but denounce another.

 

Serious question : Besides hookers in Guangdong, how many Chinese have you talked to in your real life?

 

Actually, I don't think many Americans waste a minute of their day thinking about the systematic genocide carried out against the Natives. I don't see a 'Holocaust' museum dedicated to their memory, or proclamations of "never again". I think the overall attitude of America has been, "let's forget it ever happened, the past is the past, no reason to dwell on it." So, I disagree with you on that one. America 'brushes over' its past as much as any other nation in the world, so we aren't 'unique' in that regard.

So are the Japanese, so are the Turks, so are the Russians, I could go on and on here...