no, thats not at all what i said. your generalizing. they are incinuating that the right coach can take any players out there and turn them into a champion, and you are incinuating that a team needs no director or manager. a coach can take 12 players, and practice them and coordinate them and prepare them, but when they step on the court, it is up to the players to win the game. and when you arent willing to accept that the players are the problem, you blame the coach. the difference here is that there is more suggesting that the coach knows what he is doing than there is to suggest that this group of players knows what it takes to win. then it comes down to a matter of opinion. but logics tell us that when one has been successfull and the others havent, that the others are to blame.
What exactly are JVG's problems, if any? JVG is a no win situation when it comes to getting fair treament from the refs with Yao. The refs give him no respect because he is so small and little. And they give Yao no respect because he is so tall and big. We need Tom Thibedou - a man who has a stature that is somewhere in the middle - to take over the full responsibilty of arguing with the refs. But other than that, his problem is Mo Taylor. The last two games - Shawn Marion and Lamar Odom and Brian Cook, really had their way against the Rockets. and jvg can't suit up and go play power forward but they'll have to do something about that problem real soon.
JVG's problem Bring a lot of retirement-bound old players to the Rockets, creating bad contracts. Making us the oldest team.
But we all know that the sign of a great coach is to build a system around his players, hence maximize their strength. All sign indicates that JVG had a fomular in mind before he came in, and he is trying to force anyone & everyone into his model. You logic is flawed because JVG has never had any success in installing a system with a new team. All he has showed was that he was able to inherite a Riley coached team, relyed on a bounch veterans, rode them out to a final. On the contrary, in the past one and half season with the Rockets, he has showed us that he couldn't develop any player, and he couldn't utilize the players he had, had to make the trades so the Rockets become the senior citizen of the NBA now. Now everyone wants to know who is the REAL problem? Is the the coach, or the players? Yao and Talor are the only left overs from the old team, JVG brought in everyone else. If the players are the problem, then it has to be Yao & Talor; otherwise, JVG is the one to blame for bringing in "his type" of players. So, to use your word, the logic tells me it's more like a coach problem than anything else.
Aside from the motivation/developing players thing, JVG's mistake is that he wanted a savvy old team to play hard defense on low possessions, but he got hit by the truth that this old team is offensively better suited for a more fast paced game. So if he chooses to slow it down, they can defend but can't score. If he chooses to go up tempo, they can score but can't defend.
I think this is an important question. Whether it's the fault of the players or the coach, if the team key players give up on the coach or even just are not happy to play for him, the one who has to go is the coach. This is a players league afterall.
Its not about lover, haters - or even skaters or surfers - it is about intelligence, common sense, and objective observations. Three qualitys you are LACKING.
Dang. The Van Gundy lovers sure love to attack me. I could care less you jack ass of what you think of me. Answer the freakin question dork.
to answer the question with a question is what i will have to do- and let me put this as dorky as I can: Are any of our players not happy playing for Jeff Van Gundy?
Look, maybe trading for Wesley and Barry didn't make us that much better on paper, but they changed the chemistry, which has helped. But the bigger problem might be Van Gundy, and because we're not in the locker room or at practice, we can't know what the players think. I think we're at the point where canning him and making a change might work out (see, e.g., Astros and Phil Garner). Garner probably knew less baseball than Jimy "Worst Interview Ever" Williams, but he changed the locker room atmosphere. Van Gundy definitely knows basketball--I have full respect for that part of his coaching--but I think we just might need a personality change.
see what i'm saying, you cant answer my question, like I can't answer yours. if we pretended we could, then we'd truly be dorks. but we would have an opportunity to go write for sina.com
I think that as frustrated as all of us feel is how bad Van Gundy looks these days. Poor guy needs to try Kaopectate. Honestly, I don't hate or love Van Gundy. I just want us to start winning.
yea, i do think Les needs to bring in a motivator type coach. anthony robbins haha..i remembered he was hired to motivate the spurs in the 94-95 season and david robinson turned in an mvp season, he won it...although the spurs got ousted by the rockets in the western conference semis. player/motivator type coaches: phil jackson, del harris, bill laimbeer? ....any others?
Rotations. Anybody think JVG's rotation were a little odd? Last year, we have 3 players average over 40 minutes a game.
He takes the fun-factor out of the game. He takes it out of his players; he takes it out of the fans; he takes it out of the opposing team. That is just not cool. After I watch Phoenix plays, it makes me want to go out and run and play basketball. Lately, after I watch the rockets plays, I rarely have the urge to go out to play ball.
