What EVIDENCE do we have that Morey is doing a great/good job?

There is a huuuuuuuuge difference that you are conveniently overlooking .. malone and stockton leaving was planned and they knew years ahead of time that it was going to happen and hence plan for it. Tmac and yao were unexpected and all of a sudden. You went one minute to planning to build a team around them to waiting a year and building a team around yao to not having anyone.. dont forget the yao ming saga JUST sadly resolved itself this year

 

The bottom line is what GM do you think could do a better job, and why? If you think a different GM would have Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Carmello, Deron Williams or any of the other "super star" level players that have been on the trade blocks in the past year, then I don't think there is any reasoning with you. These players gave very limited lists of places where they would consider resigning. That list wasn't likely to change with a different GM and had little to do with who the GM of the team that landed them is. If the owner says no tanking, then he isn't likely to hire a new GM who's plan for rebuilding is to tank. So what would a different GM do that would make the team significantly better than it is now?

There may be a GM out there who can do as good, or even a better job, but I think there a whole lot more who would do significantly worse. If you think changing GM's is magically going to make us front runners to get Dwight Howard or any other superstar who is forcing himself out of his current team then I think your expectations are unrealistic. As far as I can tell, the only "evidence" that he might not be doing a good job is that we havent been in the playoffs the past two seasons, after both Yao and Tmac went down. Guess what? If Kobe and Pau go down with career threatening injuries the Lakers aren't likely to be making the playoffs in the two following years either. Same with Lebron and Wade or Amare and Carmello or any other contender that loses it's two best players to injury. It's not a life long pardon from not making the playoffs or contending, but some patience is warranted. Carroll Dawson was GM from 1996-2007 and there didn't seem to be nearly as much demand for his job.

 

The Rockets recent history was gutted by injuries, Morey is genius for treading water and not drowning. Non-glamour teams can wait a decade to get a franchise player, we finally get Tmac and he gets a, whatever it was he got. Then, you wait a decade to get a franchise draft pick, partially because the front office is too competent to be total crap. We finally got one and he has a glass foot.

That's the story and we have to live with it. Maybe Morey geniused into Marcus Morris and he's the new Carmello Anthony, maybe Monteijunas will be the new Dirk.

 

These Morey threads degenerate into the usual members who nitpick Morey's moves and other members backing Morey's predicament. The real reason why those dialogues happen is because some certain members just don't like the "In Morey We Trust" sentiment that has grown over the years since Morey took over, and just have to pee in the cheerio bowl. Nevermind the fact that he has maneuvered the team within the guidelines Les has given him and still field a competitive team, but alas no superstar and only 1 playoff appearance since his arrival, a failure. Getting rid of Morey is one sure way of going into tank mode. The problem is after that, getting out the bottom of the barrel losing predicament is tougher than realized if you don't have the right ping pong balls or the right players in the lotteries. (you may say apple to oranges, but look no further than in Minute Maid Park as an example of a team that can't get out of the cellar, you want that?). And then the GARM will be littered with "We're such losers! Why can't we get out of the cellar?!? We suck, why can't our GM get us a superstar? What's wrong with us? WHAAH WHAAAH WHAAAH!!!!"

News flash to the cheerio bowl pissers: yeah we know Morey hasn't gotten us a superstar, yeah we know the only 1 playoff appearance since he's been the GM. Thanks for the memo Captain Obvious members.

 

I'm not JJ, but that post was Dyn-o-miiiiite!

 

So they didn't know yao and tracy was breaking down and crumbling right before our eyes. They knew stocton and malone was leaving at some point, but malone left to play in laker land and they gave ak-47 a max deal. Had boozer and ak-47 not missed as many games, they wouldn't have landed williams whom they moved up to get i might add. Even if you believe what you said to be true, they let boozer walk and got a tpe and they traded williams for a bevy of players and picks

 

Rick Adelman

 

Morey has done a great job with the hand he was dealt, fragile stars...

You must remember this team is only one full year removed from being one built to compliment Yao and Tracey, losses like those will take time to recover from.

And while I do not necessarily agree that the apparent current path of adding GOOD players (looking at you Dalembert) to the current roster will make the team more than first round fodder for the real power house teams out west; I also recognize the league and the team (maybe more so with Morey at the helm) is an ever changing entity that he will have no problem tweaking and tweaking again until he is pleased with the results.

I however, just don't think he has the fire power to make the moves or win the games right now, my opinion is you play the youngsters and see what the draft turns up.

Morey though, has done a bang up job.

 

Bull****. If that was the case how come we couldn't get out of the first round the year he got here but after Morey made his first big moves the next year we got to the Second round?

 

Ditto. Right on the money, no pun intended.

 

Really. I think Lowry, Gasol, and Nene would have been a pretty good core. You seem to be making the assumption that management wouldn't be upgrading the roster around that core. I can see Courtney Lee making great strides as a starter, and I can definitely see Morey upgrading the 3 through the draft. For all we know one of our young 3's may end up blossoming under McHale. You may not think highly of that core, but with Morey's history of finding good young talent, I think it would be a lot better than our current situation, and we'd be maintaining the flexiblity to continue to remain in contention for many years.

 

I think the attributed success over the years has been due to the incredible coaching we had. Players like Aaron Brooks were given the confidence in playing in a player friendly system. Had the coach been JVG, NONE of the those players would've been successful. Overrall, I think Morey needs to be fired. If you'd told me 4 years ago after all the wonderful assets we've stockpiled, that we'd only end up with Pau Gasol I'd stop being a Rocket fan instantly. I'm convinced Les hired Morey knowing we werent trying to win games just remain respectful while cutting cost. If we keep bringing in young talented assets and "flipping" them after only a year, then it's obvious fans will continue to assume we're only "one player away" when we're actually several players away.

As a true Rockets fan, it's disappointing you guys have given Morey a huge pass

 

The draft is the only plausible path to having a franchise player. Maybe 10 teams in the league have a franchise player. The only team that got theirs without several years of losing or incredible lottery luck is the Lakers.

You can borderline contend without tanking (e.g. the Gasol move). The Jazz got Deron Williams with a relatively short rebuild. Even then they had to trade 2 first rounders to move up 3 spots to get him, and they never even made the Finals with him.

I agree with the Morey critics that we aren't contenders, which is basically b/c we lack a franchise player. But I don't see any of the critics proposing a plausible solution.

 

that was the curse of TMAC.

 

Here's one: Tank

The 2012 draft looks loaded and the season is only 66 games. This is the perfect storm for tanking. Trade K-Mart and Luis for future picks, start Thabeet, and start counting the ping pong balls.

 

Lmao. Which of Morey's moves would you exactly consider "big"? I dont quite remember us aquiring a allstar caliber player in years

 

Ron Artest. Like it or not he helped this team get to the second round.

 

What does this have to do with the Rockets? Stockton and Malone are like what, 40 when they left? Yao Ming just turned 30 when he retired, and Tmac is a year younger than Kobe. Of course now that both of them are irrelevant, its easy to see we should have cut ties with both of them. However if you had traded Yao or Tmac back then, you certainly wouldn't have gotten anything good, both of them were already known to be damaged goods. Morey's decision was either to gamble that the two become healthy, or you trade both of them for cents on the dollar and then suck. It was a no-brainer decision.

Again, what does this have to do with the Rockets? Yao Ming was always healthy during the regular season but then got injured in the playoffs, unlike Boozer and Ak-47 who were injured all season long or for most of the season. Are you saying DM should have foreseen that Yao Ming would put up all star numbers during the regular season but then break his leg or step on someone's foot right before the playoffs for like 3 straight times? If Boozer or Ak-47 did the same thing the Jazz wouldn't get DW, its that simple.

Also we let Ming retire and got an exception, and we also traded T-mac for a bevy of players and picks. The quality of stuff is different from Jazz, but DW is different from broken down T-mac.

 

If you hate Morey so much go follow another team pls. Obviously you are just trolling here, your comments lack all sense of logic or reason. 99% of your posts are troll posts, starting with that lame ass thread about how Kobe is the greatest ever considering all the sh$t he's been through

 

third star player to join where were the first two. Ok Gasol is a star but nene is not