What EVIDENCE do we have that Morey is doing a great/good job?

The last notable deal that Dawson did that actually worked out was McGrady for Francis - in which the party on the other side, John Weisbrod, had been on the job for about 2 months, and prior to that was in the International Hockey League.

I guess he and CD musta done some skating or something together.

Herp a derp it up one mo' time.

 

Err, the Mavs just won an NBA title with Donnie Nelson as the GM. Mark Cuban got to sleep with, fly with and pose at urinals with the Larry O'Brien trophy. Why in hell would he want to replace a GM with a proven track record in winning a title with one who is a never was?

 

Evaluating talent/drafting/putting together trades.... Morey is exceptional

Pissing off current players, not giving players/coaches extensions unless you're a 7'6" guy from China, giving a HOF coach an ultimatum that requires he fires on of his guys for a d-league coach, trying to convince players outside Houston that this organization is a great place to play.... Morey fails off the charts

It's unfortunate, but being a top GM requires more than just making moneyball moves. For all the idiots who think there's enough groundwork to claim he's a top 5 GM needs to get a clue. With what I have stated, there is strong hard factual evidence to back this up. Too many fans form attatchments to players like Luis for example, and think that any team out there would covet him and would give up everything for him. Simply not the case. The last two seasons, the Rockets have drafted 14, and it's looking like we are on the fastrack to a 9th seed again. You can blame Les, Stern, Adelman, T-Mac, Yao, Bonzi Wells.... But Morey is responsible.

 

How about waiting till half the season was over before giving PP even 1 minute of playing time? Prioritizing his favorites Aaron Brooks and Brad Miller over clearly superior players in Jordan Hill and Courtney Lee. Also, he and his staff completely ignored all the statistical analysis DM and his peepz have provided, something that the Dallas has acknowledged played an integral part in them being champions last year.

I agree with the coach firings That was poorly handled. You don't think majority of his trades have made us better? Really? Lowry trade? Scola Trade? Kevin Martin trade? Please tell me how having V-Span, Alston and Tmac would have made the team better.

Why do I need to explain it? Apart from the center spot our roster is superior to all those teams. Gortat, Biedrins and Kaman aren't exactly Dwight Howard, Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson.

 

No, it also requires lottery ball moves and drafting a franchise player.

 

LOL where is the factual evidence? Also your bolded statement is so wrong on so many levels. If Scola is coveted by a lot fo people we would have traded him. The main reason Morey keeps him around is because his value to the team is more than what we would have gotten if we traded him.

 

Then why are Lowry, Scola, and Martin still Rockets, and why isn't this team gutted? Let me guess, because of Les Alexander right? This team is on a fast track to staying mediocre once again... How dare anyone blame Morey right??

 

Oh di oh dee oh....pick one deal out of hundreds like it shows a pattern.

Sam Derper strikes again.

DD

 

Reading/Comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I am saying that Scola is not coveted by every other team, even though the average Rockets fan thinks he is because they form attatchments to him. The notion of "any team would love to have Scola" and "Morey is awesome because he got us Scola..." I used Luis as an example to where the thought process is with the fan base.

 

BTW - I am not saying CD was better etc, just that he had more releationships and experience.

Give Morey some time, and he will get his own relationships too.

DD

 

Did you see where I said, "simply not the case"... and just waste more bandwith with your respone?

 

Morey IS awesome because he got us Scola. Scola is a quality player who was acquired for capspace. Considering Luis Scola has been giving us 15 and 9 the past couple of years I'd say that's a pretty solid move for a free player.

Also people dont form attachments to Scola because he is coveted by other teams, people like him because he hustles every night and is productive consistently.

 

Donnie Nelson should thank his dad for fleecing the Bucks out of the draft rights for Dirk, otherwise where would the Mavs be today with Donnie as the GM.

You know what a good GM is? One that has a superstar to build around, otherwise you're just another Morey.

 

Morey also got us Lowry for Rafer Alston and KMart for TMac's corpse.

 

They are not superstars, therefore Morey is not a good GM. Get with the program moran.

 

This is the mindset that I speak of... and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Scola is offensively skilled, but the league is stacked with PFs. Did you watch the Utah game where the whole entire Toyota Center knew that the Jazz were going to give Milsap the ball every possession in overtime and score on Scola every time? I mean you're not going to find a more one-way player at the position in the league right now. But yet he gets a free pass because everyone loves his hustle (and they form an attatchment.) Just an example.

 

That's right, Morey should have offered Spanoulis to the Timberwolves for Kevin Garnett at the time. Morey failed bigtime.

 

It was Donnie Nelson who discovered Dirk. He was talking about the kid well before the Mavericks drafted him and Dirk was on nobody's radar. Back then, Nelson was one of the few people scouting the European players. I recall the initial reaction up here to his selection as WTF???

That's kind of harsh. If I were to fault Morey for anything (besides the Artest deal for which I will never forgive him), it would be that he's blindly followed a bankrupt plan instituted by CD for the past 5 years which is a prime reason they find themselves in the fix they're in today. I'm also not a fan of his selection of McHale as the head coach.

 

Or you can go the DD La-Z-boy route - pick no deals, show no evidence, repeat received wisdom over and over again wihtout bothering to see if it's true.

 

About the "Morey hardball negotiation and treating player like asses piss off players so stars don't want to come to Houston" theory:

I wonder about it sometimes, but kind of doubt it. First, I don't think the Rockets are anywhere near the only team that's ever frustrated a player by not being willing to spend more money on him. Even the Lakers pissed off Shaq when they wouldn't agree to give him a lucrative extension (this led to their trading of Shaq to Miami). Odom and Ariza also had contentious negotiations with the Lakers when they hit free agency after the Lakers won the title. This didn't make them an undesirable team to play for. There are many other examples involving other teams out there. Just part of the NBA business.

What does hurt the Rockets is really the lack of a resident star player. Most stars who want out (like Dwight, CP, Lebron, Bosh) are ones in situations where they are surrounded by non-star players (some better than others) and are frustrated because they couldn't carry the team by themselves and do not trust management to be able to imrove the team.

Now, Houston can probably make the argument that their non-stars are better than other people's non-stars since theirs are over .500 by themselves even in the absence of a star (Yao, Tracy being hurt and all) while the teams left behind by Bosh and Lebron were 25-ish win teams. However, that's kind of a finer distinction to argue. It's much eaiser to make a Dwight Howard believe that his life will be better on the new team if the new team already has a Deron Williams or a player with some notoriety on the squad. Remember how happy Tracy McGrady was to be traded to Houston?

Anyway, in the absence of a Yao Ming miracle recovery or the team deciding to tank for a high pick (neither of which is likely to happen, at least this year), the one way out of this dilemma is to one of the guys on the squad establish himself as a star. For that, the team needs to make the playoffs and the would-be star would have to produce high-level stats and preferably some playoff heroics. Just think about how much the public perception of Zach Randolph changed in one year. What if they had lost 2 or 3 more games and the Rockets won 2 or 3 more? My candidate for this would-be resident star: Kyle Lowry.