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what do you think of obama's speech?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Sep 6, 2012.

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  1. Hakeemtheking

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    Very thoughtful post. Re'd.
     
  2. sammy

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    This.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    You are the first person I've heard say that Romney's speech was better than Obama's. Romney's speech wasn't bad but it wasn't great. Romney looked uncomfortable at times, especially talking about his own past. The only time he looked really comfortable was when he was talking about Bain.

    Obama's speech last night certainly wasn't his best but consider that Romney's speech was probably his best. If it comes down to oration there is no way Romney can compete with Obama.

    Anyway both top of the ticket campaign speeches were overshadowed by other speakers at their conventions and because of that both suffered. Obama's speech was very overshadowed by Clinton (I bet Clinton really really wishes he could run again) and Romney was overshadowed by Rubio.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    Good analysis. Obama just had to stick to the fundamentals and not turn the ball over.

    The team in Tampa knew the game plan. The game plan though involved a lot of flopping to try to make it look like the other team was committing offensive fouls.
     
  5. juicystream

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    The part I watched was good. Was curious exactly what Romney/Ryan said that led to certain parts, and also was wishing I could ask the President why he didn't do some of the things he was saying during his 1st term.

    Of course those things will usually run through your head with a convention speech which is more about firing up the base more than anything.
     
  6. LonghornFan

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    How come such an educated man like Biden cannot speak correctly at all? If I took a shot every time he messed up a word or lost concentration I would have been lit. Dude was kind of embarrassing to watch.
     
  7. davidio840

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    Great analogy. I agree that Obama did exactly what he should have done. He cannot go out there and boost his own character and achievements. That is what Clinton and Michelle were supposed to do and they pretty much killed it. Clinton is one of the best speakers I have ever seen. Guy is a genius. He is also the first former president to speak on behalf of a current president at a convention.
     
  8. thegary

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    exactly. i want to hear from solid, or anyone thinking of voting for romney, what this plan is because we certainly haven't heard it from romney.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Yeah - generally when people try to speak inspirationally - it's better to engage in dry, technical detailed explications rather than soaring metaphor or of lofty abstract ideals.

    Nothing inspires me more than an instruction manual!
     
  10. solid

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    Mainly, it is economics. He promised to cut the deficit, he expanded it. I was against the Bush stimulus and the Obama stimulus. One hundred economists posted a statement on the net that neither would work, and they didn't. He promised to bring the Country together, he didn't. He promised he would bring down unemployment. Didn't happen. I know he is not in total control of everything, but if you can't do it, don't say you can. I will give more detail if I have time later.

    Let's give Team Romney a chance which will likely include more hands on practitioners and fewer academics.

    I was very excited about America electing our first Black President, but people are really hurting and we have to try some new ideas.
     
  11. Nook

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    He has been like that for years and it has gotten worse the last decade or so. I think part of it is a shield, he can get away with saying things other people cannot and everyone says "Ohh it is okay, that is just Uncle Joe, his heart is in the right place."..... also I think it is part of how he "relates" to the common man.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    So basically your love of ridiculous and contradictory economic ideas, and your refusal to accept facts, is why you no like him any more (if you actually did in the first place. ..)?

    Fair enough. Honestly if Obama can't convince people who think that economically speaking, 1-1 = 1, which is the core of what passes for a "plan" from the GOPsters these days, then c'est la vie.

    Oh and btw, Team Romney's econmic team = same as GWB
     
  13. LonghornFan

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    His fake cry and throat clearing while talking about the troops, so overboard and obvious. He just irritates me. I would die scared if he were to end up running the country.
     
  14. solid

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    What "ridiculous and contradictory" ideas? Name the Bush advisors in his inner circle.
     
  15. HR Dept

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    "I'm voting for Romney because Obama didn't turn water into wine."

    Ok, Gotcha. :rolleyes:
     
  16. SamFisher

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    The idea that spending should be massively cut but that the economy should also grow at the same time.

    Manikiw and Hubbard.
     
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    #1 the policies under Bush added 5 trillion dollars to the deficit, thus far under Obama it is 1 trillion additional. If you go and look at the last 35 years, you will notice that the deficit has increased greater under Republican Presidents.

    Why should I assume that will change under Romney?

    #2 Concerning bringing the country together, no President brings the country together, further, he has been met at every turn with strategic opposition from Republicans. Have you already forgotten... "You lie!" and "Waterloo".
    I would like to know how a President that is not in anyway relatable to 99% of the population, that is from a marginal faith, that is worth $500,000,000; is against gay marriage, is against abortion at all costs is going to unite the the country.

    So basically you are saying you have no clue who or what Romney believes in, but hey, at least he is not promising us anything?

    come on, you are better than that.... and the myth of the Republican President being fiscally responsible ended the day Reagan was elected.
     
  19. Nook

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    Glen Hubbard, George Mankiw, Vin Weber, Jim Talent, Kevin Hassett among others all were important advisors to Team Bush and now are at the top of Team Romney............
     
  20. solid

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    I think the case can be made that Bush was a big spender, his policies exploded the deficit. Check out a May 10, 2012 article on the Washington Times site about Romney's team, which supports your thesis. If Romney intends to be Bush II, then he won't get my vote. He claims that he and Ryan intend to reign in excessive government spending and draw down the deficit. I believe that Clinton and his team could do it, but he is not running.

    I checked back to see if there was any response, but now I have to get to work. I guess that is true of the rest of you as well.
     
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