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What do you think of James Posey?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by haven, Feb 25, 2003.

  1. feishen

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    Are we also paying too much for Cato wtith that 7+ M a year contract? Posey is the starter of this team.
     
  2. RIET

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    I agree. TMO is like all the other Rocket players. Sometimes he's really good and other times he's terrible.

    Yes he's young but we've got so many sorry contracts that Id rather let him go and take my chances then give him a long-term deal.

    The ideal situation would be to pay him cheap and hope he takes it.
     
  3. Desert Scar

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    Posey or Cat is our best 1-1 defender of swing players (sorry Hawkins isn't quite at their level), and Posey has more size than Cat--so that is a really valuable role. He also is the 4th most fouled Rocket (his athleticism makes him much different than alternatives like Morris or Hawkins in terms of drawn fouls per minute) and is good at the line, another plus.

    As of right now I certainly wouldn't offer any more than the MCE for him and would not be afraid to leave him unprotected when the new Char team gets their chance at players. However I think Posey could end up being more valuable than this and be worthy of protection. He doesn't need to become a vintage Glen Rice, but if he could just get his shooting up a notch he would be a major player for us for many years. For the life of me I can't figure out why he isn't hitting in the low 40s from the field and mid-30s from 3--his first year with Denver he did better than that on plenty of shots (43% FG and 37% 3s).

    Thus my major hope is greater familarity and comfort in the system (and maybe offseason shooting work) will get his shooting %s up a notch. If he does, he will be a major cog for many years. If he doesn't he still is a nice sub--but I wouldn't want us to go to too much effort or money to keep him.
     
  4. SmeggySmeg

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    Posey is a good defender, runs the floor well, tries to throw it down a lot which is good, but his decision making if the dunk is not there is terrible which is the same for his outside shooting

    PS Kenny is carving up the last week or so starting
     
  5. rrj_gamz

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    Yeah he does...

    I think the trade was respectable, not a "Oh sh*t, why'd we do that"...

    I like his hustle and D, but at times he thinks he's CAT..."Oh sh*t"...(trying to hit a 3 last night)...

    He is a better fit here and will do well...
     
  6. LiTtLeY1521

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    Posey fits well on our team. And he seems to listen to the coach.

    DR LUDICROUS. Who misses more dunks than Posey?
    STROMILE SWIFT!!!! AHAHAHAAHA. He's terrible. On Saturday....he probably missed like 5 dunks. Terrible.

    Posey is great. I hope we can keep him. He's fast and quick and tall. He can't really shoot. But he is still a great addition and good role player. He can adjust more.
     
  7. alaskansnowman

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    As far as Nachbar is concerned, I agree with Deuce. Doc said there's a reason why Tmo's been getting minutes ahead of Boki... I think Cd and Rudy are going to see if it's worth keeping him around. Boki is already configured into their long term plans, so, do you keep Posey or Tmo or bothor none?

    As far as James Posey, I agree that he overreaches on offense and that his decision making is poor (goes along with the overreaching on offense). When he first came here, he was hitting a lot of his outside jumpers, but now he seems to have come back down to reality. His jumper isnt as bad as Shandon's was though, thankfully. His defense is already obviously good, but if he could just improve his decision making on offense, he would be much more effective for us.
     
  8. vj23k

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    I love Posey. I think that he is exactly what we need(Especially if he would hold back on the 3's sometimes). It's fun watching him slash to the hoop and receive a pass from Yao. Right now, he is our best cutter.

    He plays tough "D" and gives us a defensive option in case Cuttino is getting totally burned.
     
  9. rocketsball2003

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    last i checked yao is a rookie... and posey brings d and d wins the ring. i mean would you rather have yao on the floor the whole game??? or at least have posey come off the bench for either the 2 or 3... that is what i see his long distance future with the rox... and as far as t no.. i still dont know... i guess it depends on who we get this next draft... the one pick we have in the 2nd rd.

    like the man said "this is the NBA, not the NBDL"
     
  10. ROXTXIA

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    Doc,

    The reason Boki isn't getting those minutes yet....I really hope it isn't because the coaches don't want to appear as if they wasted a first round pick on T-Mo?

    If you're still out there Doc, which players have a definite future on this team? And in what capacity? (Even if you have to reiterate something.)

    Boki
    T-Mo
    Posey
    Eddie
    Cuttino
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    I like Posey as a player. Sure, he lacks consistency on offense, but that has been true throughout his career. But if he was more consistent DEN wouldn't have traded him and he would carry a bigger salary.

    What has been somewhat of a dissapointment recently is that he seems less effective defensively. When he first got here he seemed to make an impact by getting a hand, arm, shoulder, whatever on the ball and knocking it loose. He still disrupts on occasion but it seems that he dissapears defensively more and more.

    That all said, he is a great role player. If and when Nachbar develops (hopefully over the off season) into the SF the team was looking at him to be then Posey will still be a good complment off the bench.
     
  12. Easy

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    The only beef I have about Posey is his shot selection. I think that comes with him being the go-to guy in Denver. He just needs to adjust his role and quit the habit of overreaching in offense.

    He is good at defense and rebounding. A decent offensive threat. Just what a solid role player needs to have.
     
  13. haven

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    Did this not disturb anyone else?

    He's almost certainly saying that minutes on the Rockets are not given according to merit. If the specific reason Boki weren't getting any minutes is because Tmo is better... there's no reason to say anything. And he wouldn't find it odd.

    ugh. How bizarre.
     
  14. New Jack

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    Rudy has mentioned in the past that he wants Nachbar to be next years rookie to make up for the draft pick we won't get do to the Grizzlies trade. Is is possible that he's THAT hell bent on sticking with this plan even if Boki is good enough to play?
     
  15. Sane

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    Doc, there are around 4 or 5 guesses about what the reason is. Can you just say whether or not anyone has got it right at this point? Don't say who, just say "yes, someone's got it right" or not.

    Anyway, I think it's great that Boki is looking good in practice (I'm assuming that's what Doc is saying).

    To be honest with you, now that I've read these responses, I'm reluctant to give Posey even 4.5M. I'm reluctant to sign him long term. Obviously, since the beginning of time, our Small Forward has had to be able to hit the 3 consistently. Respected 3-pt shooting is an area this team is sorely lacking.

    I think the best decision for us would be to try to get Posey @ 4M, nothing more, and see if he'll sit on the bench as our 6th man for that money. If not, then either let him walk, or sign and trade him if there's something we'd like to do.

    Wow, it's actually refreshing to hear that Boki is doing well. Doc, one last question, would you say Boki will get a chance to show his stuff this year at all, or is it positively (barring injuries) going to be his coming-out party NEXT year?
     
  16. UT Baller

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    If Nachbar is the future at the 3 why not put Posey at the 2 and bring Cat off the bench? We all know that Steve and Cat are just too similar to have on the court together for 40+ mins a game. I am in the Cat as 6th man camp and Posey being the defender, hustler that he is might fit in perfectly at the starting 2. I don't know if his ball handling is good enough, but he would only have to play like 15 mins at the 2 and another 15 at the 3 behind Nachbar. What would y'all think of such a move?

    Steve/Mooch/Cat
    Posey/Cat
    Nachbar/Posey
    EG/MoT
    Ming/Cato
     
  17. rockbox

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    I think its laughable to put Posey at our starting two. The guy is not that quick to cover good two guards and his jumpshot is ugly.
     
  18. Sane

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    His jumpshot is ugly at the 3 also, and he defends the better 2-guards a lot of the times anyway. He doesn't need the ball, so it would get shots for Francis and Yao.

    My suggestion:

    Yao/Cato
    MoT/Griff
    Rice/Posey
    Posey/Mobley
    Francis
     
  19. Sherlock

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    Uh, yeah ... what DOC said ...

    ... but DOC said it so much better, with facts behind him, inside knowledge of the situation, and a whole lot more credibility. I just had clueless, hopeful opinion ... and certainly no tease about "the reason" we aren't seeing Boki play...

    Thanks, Doc!
     
  20. beyao

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    I'm not so high on Posey. I like his defense and overall activity, but he needs to play under more control on offense. I just don't think he brings the kind of stabilizing force that we need from a vet. I'd rather use the mid-level exemption on Piatkowski, who could be had for that much and would be a great fit for the rox. he could space the floor for Yao post-ups and stevie drives and bring some veteran leadership.
     

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