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What do you think of James Posey?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by haven, Feb 25, 2003.

  1. montgo

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    let me start off by saying for the money--Posey is great fit for the team--not for the starting role. In our system, he is actually not the best player to have in the position, though he is a great role player. Let me explain: is game is slashing, but too many times our offense it such that we have 2 slashing types out there already and really need a shooter on the 3. Look at how many times he is all alone to shoot the 3--it's our system. He is not a shooter--I would love to have a younger Glen Rice in that position. I think Posey would be better suited coming off the bench as a stopper and hustler and slasher when either Mobes or Francis is not in the game.
     
  2. ewfd

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    Posey is a perfect fit here, he's like a young scottie pippen to me (without the ******* mentality) =]
     
  3. matrixReloaded

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    he's gotta work on his oops from stevie's alley, dude has a hard problem flushing it.
     
  4. Ming the Dream

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    I think JNo is a horrible fit if you are trying to build an offense around Yao. Did anybody not notice the Celts (as well as alot of teams recently) are just leaving him open and doubling down on Yao? He simply can't shoot, and although he is a decent defender, he isn't a good enough defender to make up for the fact that he is killing us on the offensive end. I wouldn't mind JNo coming back next year for the MCE, but that is it. Oh and noway in HELL do I want him starting.
     
  5. Doc Rocket

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    It may seem hard to believe but Nachbar IS the starting 3 for the future. Posey is one of those guys who throws it all out there, hustles, plays D and is intensity. Guys like Posey are key to winning championships - they're also key to deep benches and that's what he is, IMHO - a SOLID key bench player.

    I have a feeling that we're going to get a little frustrated when Boki comes in and provides that slashing/ pure shooter that we've been missing. I think we'll ask what took so long? I actually say slasher first because even though he's a GREAT shooter, he actually slashes just as well.

    Oh well...we'll see.
     
  6. codell

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    I have to agree with Doc Rocket in that IMO, JP is not the long term solution at the 3 or 2, starting wise. His outside shot is just way too inconsistent, especially when hes in at the same time as Yao.

    Maybe someone can do the research and find out what our record is with Rice in the starting lineup and what our record is with JP in the starting lineup??? I betcha the results would suprise ya. ;)
     
  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Thanks doc for your comments because you one of the few that have insight of what is happening in practice. I think Boki is our future and from what I've seen of him, he has a great first step. His shooting during games will come when he gets more playing time.
     
  8. The Real Shady

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    I'm starting to wonder about Boki. If he really has some skills then why can't he get Terrance Morris's minutes. He was supposed to be more NBA ready then anyone else in the draft.

    I like Posey as our future backup at SF/SG at around 4.5 million. You never know he could develop a jump shot like Artest did and become a very good SF.
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    4.5 million is too much for a back up in this day in age. If you look at the crop of free agents out there next year and with only 3 teams more than the MCE under the cap, I don't see Posey getting the MCE. a player like Juwan Howard will be available for the MCE probably.
     
  10. Live

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    Posey's a solid role player, but I just can't see him as the long term answer at SF, especially with Yao at C.

    In short, he's Augmon with a better jumper.
     
  11. Doc Rocket

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    There's a specific reason why he's not getting TMO's minutes. It's not a bad reason, even though personally I find it a little odd, but it'll have to play itself out and it will. But right now, there is a particular reason why Rudy's doing it this way.
     
  12. ewfd

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    Heh, some people here are putting all their eyes in the Boki basket :rolleyes:
     
  13. ewfd

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    err.. eggs rather.. but eyes work too :cool:
     
  14. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The only reasons I can see this is because Francis would be upset if TMo didn't get a fair shake, our we are trying to trade some one that we are playing right now.

    I like TMo, I would perfectly happy if we let Posey walk this summer and have TMo back up Boki at the three.
     
  15. montgo

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    Posey is the perfect solid and key bench player that every team has to have to win a championship. he has never been a threat on the perimeter, but his hustle, D and finishing is something teams wish they had.....

    with this said, I think it is crazy to let him walk, unless he wants more than 5 million....to snatch more than that you have to be a banger, a shooter or a longtime vet with major playoff experience. he none of these...over time he might be a vet or keys to a championship, but the market is not much higher than 5 mil for him.....if he asks for 6 mil+...sorry James...love ya, but way to much...
     
  16. RunninRaven

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    So Doc...out of curiosity, after this odd reason plays out, will we as fans find out what Rudy's thinking is/was? Will we ever know why Rudy is doing it like it is, or must we languish in the squalor of our ignorance, passing each in our misery, just waiting for another one of your posts? ;)
     
  17. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the reason TMO is getting the minutes instead of Boki is so that Rudy/CD can get a REAL look at TMO this year and decide if they want to resign him. His contract is up after this season and they have to decide if they want to keep him on the roster. TMO has really improved his game since last year and improved his jumpshot. Rudy has said many times that they are treating Boki as next year's 1st round pick. So Boki spends a year training with the team and practicing and then gets his break in the summer leagues this year and training camp next season.

    Chris
     
  18. austinrocket

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    Posey is a good defender and adequate offensive player who should get better with time. He seems to be a good fit for this team. I like him quite a bit.
     
  19. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I think James Posey is a solid role player for this team. Sure his outside shooting could be better but we knew of that limitation when we got him. We got him for toughness, athleticism and someone that could play decent perimeter defense at the SF/SG positions. I think he has done all of the above. While Hawkins was a nice training camp find for the Rockets, Posey is an upgrade.

    I think Posey teamed with an offensive threat in Nachbar will be a decent SF tandem. TMo seems like he is somewhere in between in terms of being able to bring defense and offense (this season) to the table but is not as tenacious as Posey in terms of playing solid man on defense.

    I would like to keep Posey after this year if we can. But like many others, I don't think we should have to pay too much to keep him. If he asks for too much then we just let him walk and go with TMo. But I think with all the dollars spent in FA this off season that Posey won't be able to fetch a real high price and I think he generally likes playing in Houston with this group of guys.

    Posey is one nice piece in the cog of role players that the Rockets need to surround their superstars, Yao & Steve, with.

    Chris
     
  20. New Jack

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    I think Posey would be a perfect spark off the bench for this team. He's the type that can come in and make a lot of things happen in a short period of time. He's struggling with the starting line-up because there are already 2 other slashers on the floor (Steve & Cat). Plus, Yao's got to get his touches. So basically Posey has been forced to be just a jump shooter, which is a waste of his slashing ability. IMO, starting someone like Rice, Nachbar, or Morris at the 3 would be wiser because they're all mainly catch and shoot players.
     

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