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What divides us won’t be along race, it will be based on beliefs as evidenced

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Do we want to get in a battle of individual examples? We can talk about the Navy veteran that was peacefully marching and then attacked by Federal Troops that shouldn't have even been in Portland.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Instead of anecdotes why not just go with data. What percentage of Black voters will vote for Trump in 2020 as he represents the viewpoint that BLM is bad? 60%? I'm assuming it's above 50% as your narrative implies.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    if 2016 is any guide it will be somewhere around 8% - 9% of the black vote. plus/minus a point or two either way
     
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    The last time you guys were prepared this happened
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    ANTIFA pen? Can you get that at the local Walmart or do you have order it on Amazon? LOL. ANTIFA pen.....lol.

    ANTIFA IS A GOOD BOOGEY MAN since there is no ANTIFA organization. The Alt-Right is disguising themselves in black and causing much of the mayhem.......calling themselves ANTIFA.
     
  6. Os Trigonum

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    there is no antifa. only white supremacists
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    There is Antifa. But that doesn't change the fact that one white supremacist in one day in one black church killed more Americans than Antifa has in their entire existence.

    So to veer you away from the strawman, here is the premise you should debate: this current administration and the GOP overplay the reach and damage of Antifa.
     
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    I've heard you say this before.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    I know but I'll keep on repeating it until you and other posters stop beating up a strawman.

    So to veer you away from the strawman, here is the premise you should debate: this current administration and the GOP overplay the reach and damage of Antifa to deflect from extremism that actually ends lives.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    that's not a premise. that's a conclusion.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Okay. That is the conclusion you should be debating against if you disagree. Let's skip the pedantic part of the debate and jump right into the substantive part. So I agree. I should have used the term "conclusion" instead of "premise".
     
  12. Os Trigonum

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    I just wanted to be sure that for all that bravado you express, you aren't one of those guys carrying full PPE (plate carrier with front,back and side sapis, 6 fully loaded mags, water, etc that weighs up to 70-90 lbs) but no brains.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    is my bravado bragging about being prepared about a civil war?

    You think you are cute but that's all you have huh. Posting random articles that have little relevancy and quips. The one time you engaged sincerely was due to the fact the subject matter has great meaning to your upbringing.

    People bragging about being prepared for a civil war while being out of shape to not even wear the combat gear a basic infantryman carries is funny. Like I said comedy is subjective. Maybe you didn't find it funny but I do.
     
  14. Os Trigonum

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    I trained to fight Sandinistas. true story.
     
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    I'd like to see something more robust than a few anecdotes before I believe there is any credible counter-BLM sentiment in the AA community. Hopefully, someone is doing a survey or something.
     
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    Closer to accurate than the accusations being thrown out by right leaning folks in the media and on these boards.
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    Don't expect a sincere reply answering your question.
     
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    I’m half Nicaraguan - true story - you are my hero
     
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    antifa killing buildings, right wing extremist killing people

    one is a terrorist groupie , the other is some very fine people
     
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