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What can Stern say if we do this....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Since75, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. Since75

    Since75 Member

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    Successful Trade Scenario

    Congratulations on a successful trade.
    Due to Orlando and the L.A. Lakers being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Orlando and the L.A. Lakers had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining

    Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: -30.3 ppg, -3.0 rpg, and -4.7 apg.
    Incoming Players
    Pau Gasol
    31 year old , 7-0, 250 lb F-C from FC Barcelona Regal (Spain)
    18.8 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.3 apg in 37.0 minutes

    Outgoing Players
    Kevin Martin
    28.5 year old , 6-7, 185 lb G from Western Carolina
    23.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.5 apg in 32.5 minutes in 2010-2011
    Luis Scola
    31.5 year old , 6-9, 245 lb F from Caja Laboral (Spain)
    18.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.5 apg in 32.6 minutes in 2010-2011
    Goran Dragic
    25.5 year old , 6-4, 180 lb G from Union Olimpija (Slovenia)
    7.4 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.1 apg in 17.8 minutes in 2010-2011

    Orlando Magic Trade Breakdown
    ]Change in Team Outlook: +14.9 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -0.3 apg.

    Incoming Players

    Kevin Martin
    28.5 year old , 6-7, 185 lb G from Western Carolina
    23.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.5 apg in 32.5 minutes
    Luis Scola
    31.5 year old , 6-9, 245 lb F from Caja Laboral (Spain)
    18.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.5 apg in 32.6 minutes
    Goran Dragic
    25.5 year old , 6-4, 180 lb G from Union Olimpija (Slovenia)
    7.4 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.1 apg in 17.8 minutes
    Andrew Bynum
    24 year old , 7-0, 285 lb C from St. Joseph High School (New Jersey)
    11.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.8 minutes

    Outgoing Players

    Dwight Howard
    26 year old , 6-11, 240 lb F-C from Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy (Georgia)
    22.9 ppg, 14.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 37.6 minutes in 2010-2011
    Hedo Turkoglu
    32.5 year old , 6-10, 220 lb F from Anadolu Efes (Turkey)
    9.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 25.2 minutes in 2010-2011
    Jameer Nelson
    29.5 year old , 6-0, 190 lb G from Saint Joseph's
    13.1 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 6.0 apg in 30.5 minutes in 2010-2011


    Los Angeles Lakers Trade Breakdown
    Change in Team Outlook: +15.3 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +5.0 apg.

    Incoming Players
    Dwight Howard
    26 year old , 6-11, 240 lb F-C from Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy (Georgia)
    22.9 ppg, 14.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 37.6 minutes
    Hedo Turkoglu
    32.5 year old , 6-10, 220 lb F from Anadolu Efes (Turkey)
    9.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 25.2 minutes
    Jameer Nelson
    29.5 year old , 6-0, 190 lb G from Saint Joseph's
    13.1 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 6.0 apg in 30.5 minutes

    Outgoing Players

    Pau Gasol
    31 year old , 7-0, 250 lb F-C from FC Barcelona Regal (Spain)
    18.8 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.3 apg in 37.0 minutes in 2010-2011
    Andrew Bynum
    24 year old , 7-0, 285 lb C from St. Joseph High School (New Jersey)
    11.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.8 minutes in 2010-2011
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Nothing, Stern is not acting on behalf of any of those teams.

    DD
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He can say, no....Basketball Reasons.
     
  4. Johnson2000

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    Stern wants the Rockets to stay irrelevant

    He doesnt want us to get that superstar( either that or we are just cursed)
     
  5. Rockets FTW

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    nah... we just recieve unlucky "breaks" at times
     
  6. Since75

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    Ha Ha, I like the sarcasm, but really, does this make sense from a trade perspective and btw I don't think the Lakers would still have a trade exception with Turkoulo(sp) contract coming back.
     
  7. ross84

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    I don't see the big deal (or maybe don't understand it), but the entire league owns NO and they had a vote. Someone please explain the problem with this.
     
  8. Since75

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    And we can still sign Nene if it's not too late.
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    the problem? It was a legitimate traded that they knew was going to happen. The NOLA GM kept them informed of the players coming and going. The NAB front office had no problem with it and then when its finished 2 few owners scream and it's stopped.

    My problem? Stern is a ****ing ****.
     
  10. Vivid

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    Where are you getting that the league actually voted on this? Are you just getting that from the suggestion that Dan Gilbert made to the commissioner to have a vote in his email complaint?
     
  11. ross84

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    So the problem is that they stopped it not because it was a bad deal for NO, but because they didn't want another big 3. So, why hasn't NO found an owner? Does the reason lay on the league or no buyers?
     
  12. mattrbowers

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    To me the problem lies within the league owning the team. They can't make sound decisions that are in the best interest of both their teams.
     
  13. Since75

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    Just checked in realgm, and if Odom is added to the deal to the Rockets the trade still works.

    Rockets Lineup assuming Thabeet is amnestied.

    Nene,Hill
    Gasol,Patterson
    Odom,Morris,Budinger
    Lee, Williams
    Lowry,Flynn

    Not a bad lineup
     
  14. jayhow92

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    Throw in Thabeet for Odom and we have a deal.
     
  15. Since75

    Since75 Member

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    I did in the previous post.;)
     
  16. jayhow92

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    You must have posted that like 5 seconds before me. :)
     
  17. Since75

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    And I'll take my chances with the above lineup even against the Lakers.

    There are matchup problems with Howard having to deal with 2 seven footers like he's had problems with Boston in the past. Wouldn't worrry much about the Lakers. They'd have the big names but not necessary enough big games to dominate the West like they and everyone else may mistakenly believe.
    The league is about matchups and the Rockets with the size from this lineup would cause mismatches for anyone in the league and oh BTW this lineup plays a little D as well.
     
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  18. Since75

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    I did. LOL
     
  19. emjohn

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    The league/owners had already okayed Demps to work on trades
    The league/owners told GMs that checked (including the Lakers) that Demps had authority to trade Paul
    The league/owners knew for months that Paul wanted out and had time to decide if they would trade him or not
    The league/owners knew for weeks that big markets (Knicks, Celtics, Lakers) wanted Paul and never laid down conditions
    The owners never voted on the deal
    The league publicly declared that the owners didn't squash the deal, that Stern did so for "basketball reasons" - not reasons concerning the Hornets themselves.

    Stern knew that this was a 1-2 setup for Lakers to also get Howard, so did plenty of other execs (Bynum + picks ~ Lopez + picks, and add in the $9M TE to absorb Turk like the Nets planned to do with cap space). He knew another superfriends team up, in LA of all places would result in his ouster by the owners that employ him.




    Because New Orleans has been a gigantic mistake and the Hornets have been a financial disaster ever since moving there. Shinn gave up after the league forced him back from OKC (where he made a mint), his deal to sell fell through when the buyer saw the books, and the league had to buy him out.

    No one wants to touch that team if it's staying in Louisiana. It's Saints and LSU country, and they don't give two craps about the Hornets. The Jazz left, and that was a far more affluent New Orleans and one that had more interest in basketball.
     
  20. BreakYoSelfFool

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    Actually the league didnt have a vote. The league put people in charge to handle the team affairs to allow them to be separate. If the teams league were able to vote on issues involving the Hornets it would be a clear conflict of issues.

    The main issue is that official statement from Stern says that this trade did not benefit the Hornets, when most evaluators say not only did Hornets benefit themselves, but they benefit the most from this trade. Also, this is the best possible deal the Hornets could make.

    Noone has ever stated how this trade hurts NO.
     

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