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What are your true expectations of this offseason?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    No, of course not, I would love to have Bosh, I have only been arguing about the cost of acquiring him.

    I think he would be amazing on this team....

    DD
     
  2. daywalker02

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    Sign a Back up C, watch the market
    still have time until the trade deadline, watch guys in the summer league, and each piece will fall into place hopefully
     
  3. rcketsfan1

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    I think its gonna cost us a bunch of money to pay Scola and Lowry for sure. We saw what happened last season without Lowry and I dont want to think about what the season would have been like without Scola out there battling.

    If we cant get a sign and trade for Bosh, or maybe Stoudamire, I hope we stand pat and resign Scola and Lowry. Like you said, at the trade deadline, we will have a better idea of what we need and teams might be more willing to trade proven talent.
     
  4. tinywang

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    I think we are all spoiled by the idea that we COULD get Bosh.

    I don't mind standing pat. Our team is good enough as is. However, we need to get that damn back up center, a legit one! Yao's foot is not reliable and we need insurance in case anything happens again.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    It seems this has been the most turnover of NBA talent of any offseason I can remember, and teams are just leaping at the chance to sign SOMEONE....

    Lots of teams with cap room, and they are not afraid to use it, so far, no one has offered any restricted Free agent anything other than Gay (But that was his own team).....

    I am a bit worried that after the big wigs choose...Bosh, Lebron, Wade, Amare, Dirk etc.....that some of the teams that cleared space and are being left out will soon focus their eye of sauron onto some other talented "restricted" players like Luis and Kyle.

    IIRC, Portland screwed over Utah by offereing a huge contract to Millsap forcing the Jazz to have to jettison some talent.

    I hope that doesn't happen to the Rockets.

    DD
     
  6. durvasa

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    I think Morey said that the Rockets had planned out 6 possible scenarios for this offseason. So, there's probably a very good chance that the Rockets make some significant change. I'd be surprised if we didn't make some type of trade by next week.
     
  7. jedicro

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    Which cost are you talking about? Asset or salary? I specifically remember you talking about not wanting to pay him max salary, which basically means you don't want him because he's not signing for any less than that.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Perhaps, but didn't they also say there was a great chance of moving up or down in the draft? Even Jason Freidman said it in his draft chat, but I guess all of the deals fell through.

    And, if you do think they have other scenarios, what would be your scenarios, assuming we lose out on any of the big names, that is...

    I do not think he is worth that, but looking at all the crazy money being tossed around, I have resigned myself to seeing that he will get that, so my argument switched to Assets...I would be ok with giving him the max...as that is what the market has dictated.

    Bad market is bad.

    ;)

    DD
     
  9. rcketsfan1

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    I just took another look at Scola's game log on espn.com and just based on stats, it would be hard to argue that Chris Bosh is that much better than him. Scola is going to get paid. I am thinking that even if Chicago loses out on everyone else, a guy like Scola would really be a huge help.
     
  10. mickey_angelo

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    I usually do not agree with your ideas, but in this case I 100% concur. If Morey misses out on Bosh, Melo should be his next target. If he can't get something done with Denver or Carmelo he should go after a young under utilized player such as Anthony Randolph. I know many on these boards are crazy about Big Al, but I think he is too one dimensional and Khan is crazy enough to want too much(I know in most cases bad GMs tend to give away assets, but for some reason I see Khan being the type that isn't in touch with reality and would want the farm for Jefferson.)
     
  11. moose

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    I honestly think we won't sign anyone major this offseason, sadly.
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    My expectations are huge, because we have so many assets to deal with. Something big almost has to be done.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Not always, sometimes teams compile a lot of talented assets and can not afford to pay them all and have to overhaul a bit to fix playing time and chemistry issues.

    Portland was like that, Houston almost has too much talent now, so many rotational players and not enough time to go around.

    If they are not able to get something done, they may be in a tough bind at some point among players who want/need playing time.

    DD
     
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    DD, i know u said ur not that high on a jefferson/yao frontcourt because of fottspeed issues,but i like the ability to do what the lakers do and play to their length. Jefferson can play center for as long as he has too. He will rebound,post,blk some shots and oprate down there when yao is out the game. I do have concerns over his health, but if they're riding yao and martin.
     
  15. HI Mana

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    I think you mixed those up; there's a much more realistic chance of getting Amar'e or Bosh rather than getting Rubio. Kahn has staked his entire career on Ricky Rubio, with the pretense that everything he's doing is going to make sense when Rubio comes over. I think if you took any two players on the Rockets' current roster and offered them to Kahn for Rubio, he'd turn the deal down.

    I also think Jefferson's value has been torpedoed so far that it's made him impossible to trade, to where it just wouldn't be worth it for the Wolves. I never understood why they wouldn't just let him play half a season next year and show he's getting healthier, then move him to the highest bidder at the deadline; next year is pretty much a wash for the Wolves anyway; set yourself up for 2012 with Rubio as best you can!
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I look at Jefferson as a one year option in case Yao breaks......if he does we are covered, if he doesn't and the Rockets go forward, they probably trade big AL next offseason.

    DD
     
  17. HI Mana

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    Then again, having such an overflow of talent allowed Portland to overcome a ridiculous number of injuries this year and win 50 games, and the Rockets definitely aren't relying on ironmen out there; if Speed Racer, Yao and Battier miss about 20 games each, the Rockets are going to be thanking their stars that they've got depth to overcome them. I think that ultimately, you never trade away pieces for chemistry reasons unless you're a true contender or a true rebuilding project: the best talents will always find a way to get the most playing time.

    You always have too much talent until you don't have enough...
     
  18. rox4lyf

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    Yes, they did have an opportunity. But, according to reports, the proposed deal to move up in the draft to acquire Minnesota's pick asked for too much from Houston's end, and the deal fell through. And when Houston saw Patterson fall to them @ #14, they did not want to take the chance of moving down in the draft as Patterson was too good to pass up (we all know that he was #6 on the Rockets draft board).

    Like you've arguing since the beginning of the Bosh rumors, Bosh is not a player worth giving up the farm for. The fact that draft day deals fell through because they asked for too much indicates that Morey won't give up valuable pieces to "rob Peter to pay Paul". But if Bosh is to be had for a reasonable price, you can be darn sure that Morey will do his due diligence to get him.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I totally agree, it just seems that Bosh is not that interested in coming here, so what should we do?

    What would you do?

    What do you expect to happen?

    One more thing, I know the Rockets and we Rockets fans love Yao, but I don't think he is all that much of a draw with all of his injuries....I think Yao's situation is probably hurting the Rox as a free agent draw.

    DD
     
  20. Yetti

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    Well I think without Bosh!! If by chance he likes to play with Yao Ming then Morey should try & make a trade but without destroying our team.

    Yao is coming back!
    Our young players should make an improvement from last season.
    We might have young stars in PP,Hill, Taylor and Budinger
    We get Brad Miller as back up Center,Or the ex Cleveland Center.
    Morey makes a small trade for another Guard to replace Lowry who possibly might be looking for big money!
    Martin comes back rejuvenated!!
    New York goes down the drain and we make a killing with their pick next off season.
    This year we make the WC Final
    Next year Final. :p
     

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