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what are you going to do after you graduate?(high school or college)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by across110thstreet, Apr 30, 2003.

  1. francis 4 prez

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    hmm. i did play on saturday, from about 6-8 i think. and i played on sunday around 11 or midnight i think and then went and ran on the track so i may have only played one game with some people. i played monday and tonight and i play with indian people quite a bit, along with all the other asians. if it was a short white guy that's really slow and that hits a lot of 3's and who a lot of people call larry bird, that's me.
     
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    well don't get me wrong, i would play basketball until i died if i could and could still get a game together with friends. but unless i win the lottery, i'll probably retire old enough that bball won't be so easy to play and getting friends together to play it will probably be harder at that time. plus outside of bball and a really good game of like 4 on 4 football with friends, golf is probably my favorite sport to play. i'm horrible at it, thus my learn how to not suck comment, so i would want to learn how to play well so i can enjoy it. i figure if i have money and time, there's nothing better than strolling around (or riding around) a golf course all peaceful and relaxed a few times a week with some friends, who most of want to be doctors so they should have money and time by then too. ahh, 4 days a week of golf and not sucking at it, that's the life.


    i guess since i just said they'd have time and getting people together to play bball would be hard, i should clarify and say getting them to still enjoy bball (they don't have the passion for it that i do even at this age) will be the hard part by that time.
     
  3. across110thstreet

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    yup, '96. my older brother Eric was a long haired hippy artist who graduated in 92' ;)





    I go to Hunter College, which is a City University school, so I managed to survive college without paying an arm and a leg. it is comparable to the University of Texas.

    but I 've been working for quite some time now. between a paid internship and a day care job, I have been putting in 30 hours a week while going to school. I even managed to actually SAVE some money.

    thanks for the advice and the stories, everyone.

    I think I will work my fifth and final summer at Ramapo Country Day Camp and enjoy my last real summer before I venture into the real world.....

    internships, invaluable experiences for my field, highly recommended
     
  4. Oski2005

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    Hey, across110thstreet, if the children's thing doesn't work, maybe Macbeth, with his new connections, can hook you up with some Adult talent. . .


    I have no idea what I'm going to do when I graduate. As it stands, I think I'll do 2 years in Teach for America, if it doesn't get cut:D , so that I can knock off my student loans and most importantly, be a young and enthusiastic teacher to some kids who need one. Man, I doubt it'll be like Boston Public, but I bet I could post some interesting stories.

    After that, who knows, if i get a minor in Econ, I'll try and find a job, maybe I could work at Dell, but I'd like to stay in Houston and the job market doesn't look too good now. I could try to get a masters in Political Science, maybe become a prof, get my Phd and what not. Or I could, DUN DUN DAAAAAAAA, go for a law degree. If I become a lawyer though, I think I'd like to try and become a sports agent. Does anybody know how you get into that business?
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    first, become the scum of the earth.

    second, learn how to bull**** like no other. try convincing a friend that moochie norris is all-star material. if you can pull that off, you're gold.
     
  6. Band Geek Mobster

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    I've got a year and a half till I graduate (Fall 2004)...with a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management.

    I plan on going to the west coast and working management in either California or Hawaii. I have two resorts that I'm targeting right now...The Hotel Del Coronado and The Four Seasons at Hualalai .

    I just want to live near blue water and sunny skies for the rest of my life...
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    Good choice! Good RTF program up there. Great place to go to school...and finally a good BB team! :)
     
  8. across110thstreet

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    I'm gonna need a private on camera screen test first!;)

    Oski2005, I have thought about Teach For America, also NYC Teaching fellowships are available.

    let me know what you end up deciding. good luck. who knows, maybe they need teachers in , say, Hawaii....
     
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    I won't graduate for another 2 years from HS. After HS, I of course plan to go to college. I don't know what college yet, but I think I may end up going into something with computers, possible programming. I would LOVE to be apart making games. I already am using some simple game makers to get the hang of making games. (lots of work and tweaking, but seeing the end project is cool.) That's about all the "long-term" plans I have. Well, that and don't die. Possibly get married, make money, have kids, get some slurpies, you know, the usual.
     
  10. red

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    hmmm...when i open my resturant in a couple of years ill give you a ring. seattle is near the west coast.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    I went straight thru to law school after college and wish I hadn't. I wish I 'd taken a year to tend bar and party or screw around or something.
     
  12. mateo

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    After college, I took a year to bartend and screw off while saving money (bartenders drink for free!) and then took 6 months to backpack across Asia and Europe. I highly recommend doing something significant after school. Real life is rather structured.

    Yeah, it took me a year to pay off the trip and I blew off the only high-paying job offer I had outta college (sorry International Paper) but now that I live in the universe of 3 weeks of vacation a year I am so glad I did it.

    You only live once.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    b*stard! ;)
     
  14. MadMax

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    are you a lawyer now??? still in law school???
     
  15. Deckard

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    Amen. :)
    Especially the "real life is structured" quote... at least for most people. And it can be hard to get out of "real life" for awhile after you start it.

    My wife and I did it after several years together (she was tired of hearing about my travels... wanted to see what she was missing). We both quit good jobs and used savings to spend several months in Europe. Had a fantastic time, never have regretted it (and hadn't had our kids yet or it would have been unthinkable... considering how old they are, how different the experience would have been, and how much more it would have cost), and had hell getting back into the "real world' after we got back.

    Something to think about.
     
  16. glynch

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    Deckard and Mateo are right. Just go travel. My brother did it for about two years after UT. I always regretted not doing it as I was always going to grad school in some or the other.

    I'm trying to make up for it in later years somewhat successfully.

    But your only young once. go for it.
     
  17. glynch

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    Hey Fisher, it isn't to late. Put off law employment for a year or two after you graduate. Better take the bar exam first as it would be too hard after screwing around in Europe for a year or two.
     
  18. MadMax

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    i want to run through the halls of my high school

    i want to scream at the top of my lungs

    i just found out there's no such thing as the real world

    just a lie you have to rise above...



    --if you find what you like about your job, your family, your life...and you focus on all those things...then there is no "real world" in the dreaded sense it's proclaimed. it's all about perspective.
     
  19. Smokey

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    Just took my last test on the Forty Acres. I have no future plans other than playing golf, basketball, and hanging out in Austin and Houston.
     
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    College Grads Face Dismal Job Market

    ABCNews.com May 2, 2003

    Stan Jastrzebski, a communications major at DePauw University in Illinois, is getting ready to graduate in mid-May. But instead of tackling the tough job market for journalism, he's going straight to graduate school for a master's degree.

    "It's a very scary time to be a college senior," he says. "Regardless of what the cost is, it's a much smarter decision to go to grad school in the fall in order to prolong going into the job market as much as I can."

    Like Jastrzebski, many college seniors and students in their last year of a master's degree program are starting to re-evaluate their career paths amid a dismal environment for job hunting.

    Around 42 percent of employers surveyed by the National Association of Colleges and Employers, a Bethlehem, Pa.-based group that provides information for career services professionals on college campuses, say they expect to cut college hiring this year, while 36 percent said they plan to hire new college graduates.

    Overall, employers expect to keep their levels of hiring new college graduates steady this year compared to last year. But considering that hiring of new graduates dropped 36.4 percent last year from the previous year, that still implies a continued hiring slump for graduates, says NACE employment information manager Camille Luckenbaugh.

    "It's a continuation of what we saw last year, which really ends up being very dismal," she says.

    Some Students Seeing Progress

    Even the companies that are coming to campus aren't hiring, but going to colleges to maintain their visibility with students once the hiring market does turn around, says Luckenbaugh.

    "There's a resurgence of informational interviewing. We haven't heard about that since the early '90s," she says.

    The hiring outlook for service-sector employers is the brightest, while manufacturers and the government/nonprofit areas are expected to make the steepest cuts in college hiring, according to NACE.

    Business majors are faring relatively better than some of their liberal arts counterparts, says Luckenbaugh.

    Laura Poleskey, a senior marketing major at Michigan State University, says she's been able to get second interviews for sales positions with Epic Systems, a Madison, Wis.-based maker of software systems for the health-care industry, and appliance-maker Whirlpool.

    While she was initially anxious about the job search, Poleskey says having interviews with companies has helped her take the process in stride.

    "I was concerned about it, but I ended up stressing myself out way too much," she says. "I've kind of adopted the hiring attitude that something will come along."

    If she doesn't land a job by fall, Poleskey says she'll have to end up moving in with her parents.

    MBA Students Feeling the Pinch

    Although some reports say hiring of students with MBA degrees will improve this year, many say recruiting is still slow for those with these advanced business degrees.

    Recruiters estimate they will hire four new MBAs within their overall hiring mix in 2003 and 2004, according to the Graduate Management Admission Council, a McLean, Va.-based nonprofit education organization of graduate schools. In its 2001-02 survey, recruiters estimated that their companies would hire two new MBAs during that recruiting cycle.

    Still, graduate schools across the country are struggling to get their students noticed by companies that don't have the resources to visit campuses. Recently, Cornell University's Johnson School of Management flew in 28 employers to its remote campus in Ithaca, N.Y., to interview its MBA students for jobs.

    "The general thought was that the graduating class of 2002 we had seen the worst," says Mel Penn, corporate relations executive at the University of Oklahoma and president of the MBA Career Services Council, which represents career counseling professionals from 240 business schools.

    But the continued recession, along with the war in Iraq, has made many employers cautious about hiring new workers. Now, new graduates have to contend not only with competing with each other, but also competing with MBAs who graduated last year -- as well as people with much more experience who've been laid off during the recession.

    "There is a sizable inventory of people that the market just hasn't been able to pick up yet," says Penn.

    Creative Ways to Get Hired

    Despite the discouraging hiring outlook for college graduates and MBA students, career counselors say there are ways for students to get their foot in the door.

    One way is through internships. Seventy-five percent of respondents to the Graduate Management Admission Council's survey reported making job offers to their companies' own interns before even interviewing other candidates, and 50 percent of new hires in 2002 ultimately came from recruiters' own intern pools.

    Penn says he's seeing many companies hire interns for as long as a year -- a position that many students are now willing to take because it helps them get experience and can increase their chances of being hired later.

    "So many companies have not been able to hire at all for two years, but they can get permission to hire an intern," says Penn.

    Career counselors also stress the importance of networking. Just because companies aren't out actively seeking new workers doesn't mean jobs aren't out there -- and being in the right place at the right time can make a big difference between getting hired and not.

    "Rethink your connections. When you go home, use family, use friends in the community," says Phil Gardner, director of the Collegiate Employment Research Institute at Michigan State.

    Experts say the most important thing for students is not to sit around the house if they can't find work. Even working with volunteer organizations can often lead to contacts with people in the business world who are also volunteering for the same cause, says Gardner.

    "Leave your ego and introvertedness at the door and say, 'I'm going to ply my network, be it family, doctor and old girlfriend,' " says Penn. "There are companies that are still hiring and firing at the same time, they just don't advertise that."


    Sort-of related article.

    For what it's worth, I'm finishing yet another bachelors degree in August (BA - Advertising - UT/Arlington). I've applied to graduate school at UT/Austin, but I probably won't get in.

    Regardless, though, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. I don't think there are any jobs out there in advertising for me (judging by my attempts thus far, even though my professors claim I am "uncommonly talented", but what do they know?)
     

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