They're definitely multiplying... the fact this is a picture of cancer cells is *not* a coincidence..
"There is an old man who fumbled his words...who fumbled and bumbled as though he had stumbled...Imagine if Sarah Palin had asked a wheelchair bound person to stand up...Imagine if Sarah thought FDR was the President during the Great Depression...Remember that youtube on Obama where he was incoherent about "how much it costs?"....Check my prior post...It is hilarious... O my...the laughs would be about Saturday Night...Why not?...That's right...liberals are excused.... what am I talking about?...Because he is prone to gaffes? It's ok because he is on your side of the fence? It's ok when the dirty laundry is in house.... Viewers of Foxnews had a poll with 80% saying Palin won...CNN had Biden had 80%...What's the deal is there is NOTHING Palin could have said to sway entrenched liberals...Just like there is NOTHING Obama or Biden could say to sway entrenched republicans......Liberals are willing to sacrifice the economy, the war, their own son's lives for their agenda... Liberalism first right? If not, then listen to Gen. Patreaus...instead of calling him a traitor... Some liberals have charisma...others don't.... I am of the wicked belief there can be good and bad in both parties regarding leadership...The problem is that the mentality of throwing stones when you live in glass houses... Heck,...we all need to examine this...This is a problem I have with those who are supposedly "smart". and continue to throw stones... We don't want to criticize our own yard,...but should be...Had Palin stated "Stand up Chuck...O my...what am I talking about?...what would this do to Palin?....Why is it different for Biden besides he is in your yard? The thing that doesn't bother me is the strong reaction to Palin...What it does is actually help her in the eyes of those standing on the sideline watching as 2 sides in 2 different glass houses throws stones..." _______
The Presidential nominee of the Republican Party did. That's because changing the bidders on a natural gas pipeline and cutting them a half-billion dollar check doesn't qualify you to run a federal budget, fix a broken economy or end a phony, dumb war.
So you have an irrationally narrow scope of the term "in play," and you're unfamiliar with the state of Nebraska. ....And Kansas, Missouri, and Indiana. ...And North Dakota and South Dakota. ...And Ohio.
That is the point. Be better than that. Be fair. Be honest. I know it is possible from you. It will make your points better on credibility. If I was on the fence watching you throw stones at the other colored glass house, (I'm not, but pretend I was) I wouldn't believe you. I'd see someone doing all he can to throw stones and to stand and admire the holes he made without regarding the holes you received along the way. I certainly wouldn't believe you on your points because you want to play the unfair games you perceive are played on you. You need to stop admiring those holes you made, and fix the holes you have received along the way. You need to let go of the angst and hate, and to reach out to fix your holes. After a while, the people on the fence will see you dropping the stones to fix your glass house. You will acknowledge your holes rather than ignore them. You will try to find holes rather than disguise them. Stones may still be thrown, but you are going to do something different. You know throwing stones is fun, but is it more important to have a house of holes or a whole house? Those on the fence would rather come in the whole house, and the funny thing is this only gets done when you LOOK for holes. There still are 2 houses with different decor, different ways of arranging things, but wouldn't it be inspirational for those in the other house to see you looking for your own holes? Perhaps then the inspiration will be for those to do the same. The end result: 2 different houses. 2 houses with less holes Benefit: To any on the fence regardless of which house they choose to enter... Reality: Throwing stones is too much fun! Look at the big hole I just made ....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Okay, Palin is less qualified than either Biden or Obama. I stand by pretty much every other syllable of my other posts in our interchange, especiallly since I gave Maggie Seaver points for political viability.
Threads like this drive me crazy. Being a liberal hater is just as bad as being a conservative hater. The majority of people are moderates, but don't come in here because of crap like this by the extremists in here. I'm conservative and telling you that this thread was wrong. Can we stop attacking both conservative and liberal.
Here's how to break things down into coherent, noninflammatory points: -You think offshore drilling or opposition to whatever Republican energy policy is detrimental to the economy is a mistake. (Actually I have no clue wth you're talking about liberals "sacrificing the economy".) -You think leaving Iraq with forced timetables is a mistake. -You're offended by the NYTimes ad that MoveOn.org manage to slip by about "General Betrayus". All of this combined is some savage attack on people's sons and Liberalism. Now the hard part for you is to stand behind these opinions with reasoned facts or points on why you believe in them instead of waving your proverbial arms like a lunatic and insulting the exact same people you're trying to reach and convince. At least you're not running for Veep.
My "phony, dumb war" comment was emotional enough that it could be construed as partisan (although 4,000 dead GIs, half-a-trillion dollars and a semi-global intelligence failure, all completely avoidable, should piss of anyone). Some of my other references were made more for personal amusement than anything (I missed a movie to respond to this thread). And the experience comment was something someone at work also said, but that I couldn't respond to, so there's a little bit of emotional transference. But I think I've made sufficiently fact and logic-based arguments in this specific thread. Don't forget that this a Presidential election: as always, a lot of lives and liberties are at stake, so emotion and vitriol kind of come with the territory.
...and that is where I disagree. But that is okay. People disagree. It's alright...I remembered the televised debate involving Abraham Lincoln in which he asked us not what we can do for our country, but what our country can do for us...It's cool.
I stopped reading right there. I don't give Palin much credit, but I sure hope she believes FDR was president during the Great Depression. You do realize FDR's New Deal is widely regarded as getting us out of the Great Depression, right? Lots of highways built, rivers dammed, Hoovervilles paved over. As to Biden's gaffe, it works as an analogy of mass appeal. In Biden's mind, today's Katie Couric interview on TV perhaps approximates FDR's fireside chats on radio. He was wrong that FDR was president on day one of the Depression (unless, doubtfully, he was referring to FDR's speeches in his NY governor bid), but right on that FDR's reassuring of the public via the most popular medium of the day was influential.
O no doubt, and be assured that is what I meant about "day one" involving Biden's reference to FDR... FDR was a good President.
Almost all these states are historically solidly red. And given the strong focus on economics in this election, I don't see how Palin is a big plus for independents, particularly with her harsh rhetoric. I'm pulling my history from http://www.270towin.com/states/. Nebraska last voted Democratic in 1964. Kansas hasn’t voted for a Democrat since 1964, when Lyndon Johnson won in a landslide. Missouri hasn't voted Democrat since Clinton in 1996. Indiania s the “reddest” state in the Midwest. Since 1940, it has only voted Democratic in 1964, when Lyndon Johnson won a landslide over Barry Goldwater. North Dakota has participated in 29 presidential elections, voting Republican in 24 of them. It has voted Republican in the last ten elections. Of the five times it went “blue,” only 1916 (Woodrow Wilson’s second-term victory) was not a landslide for the Democratic candidate. As a result, North Dakota is a very safe state for the Republicans. South Dakota has only voted Democratic four times since being admitted in 1889, most recently in 1964.
Got assumption?.....Actually on the above points I think the complete energy policy of an all of the above approach including off shore drilling is sound such as that promoted by Palin. I do think leaving Iraq with forced timetables is a mistake. I am offended that there are some liberals who support General Patreaus of somehow being a traitor...The same senseless ideology is likely to support putting other issues after the pursuit of what is good for liberalism... That is my contention. Now, if you don't like my style. fine...But don't be an idiot and state I have no kind of reasoning...If you are ignorant on the reasonings...Stop the foreplay and just "ask"...
