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[Western Conference Finals] Spurs vs. Lakers

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rockets34Legend, May 19, 2008.

  1. tigermission1

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    I don't know about the others, but I've seen Kobe in that situation with my own eyes at least a couple of times, and no calls; he wasn't bailed out.

    Again, Lakers win this game under ANY circumstances. The worst you can say about that last no-call is that a "bad call deserves another one" in reference to not resetting the shot clock on that last Laker possession.
     
  2. madmonkey37

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    I don't know what the big deal is. Even Barry and Popovich said it was a good non call. Everybody knows the refs swallow the whistles at the end of the game.
     
  3. SladeRider

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    Fishers shout hit the rim and therefore, the shot clock should of been turned off on the last inbounds play for the Lakers. That makes anything that happened after it, pointless. Both teams got the benefit of the doubt in the last few seconds of the game.
     
  4. yaopao

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    Lakers got screwed by the non-resetting of the shot clock on Fisher's shot that hit front iron.

    I'm tired of people who only remember the last play of the game and its miscall. There are 48 mins of miscalls. Why don't we complain about those too? Those affected the game just as much as the non-call on Fisher fouling Barry.

    It's obvious who the Laker haters are.
     
  5. Kim

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    If the Refs would have given Barry the non-shooting foul, then they would have gift wrapped this game for the Spurs because Fisher's shot was NOT and airball.

    From a player's perspective, Barry screwed up not because he didn't flop, but because he didn't try to draw the shooting foul. The dude dribbled! It's frustrating to watch a player screw up something so easy as that.
     
  6. rocketsregle

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    Even if he made the mistake of not taking advantage of Fisher being in the air. Fisher had a brain fart and bit and fouled Barry. Barry should have been at the line for 2 to tie the game.
     
  7. Yaozer

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    Correction.. 96 out of 100. If that was any of the Rockets (except Tmac) that would probably be an offensive foul.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    wow lakers escaped. kobe shot really poorly in the 4th. he was like 5-14 in the 4th alone or somewhere close to that.

    but lakers got this series. hopefully it's celts v. lakers.
     
  9. Yaozer

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    Except for Jordan's last Allstar game. He could've gone out to a 3rd retirement with a bang.. but the refs called a last second foul to give the West the win that year.
     
  10. jello77

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    you guys complaining about this conspiracy bs can seriously just shut the hell up. i hate both teams--the lakers were getting SCREWED on every call this game. you can NOT say the refs won this--every single call went against la except for the last one, in a situation where the refs NEVER call a foul.

    last year in the finals against these very same spurs. game 3 or 4. lebron james gets contact shooting a three pointer from the same spot at the buzzer. NO FOUL. so seriously. stop this bull. if you really hate the nba, then what are you doing posting in this thread. go back to your golf and mlb boards and let the rest of us enjoy the games without your moaning about referees all the time. christ. nothing personal against all of you, especially since i respect alot of you, but this conspiracy crap has got to stop. did you watch the game?

    i have no idea how someone could watch the game and think it was fixed or that the refs were favoring the lakers. it's completely impossible that any sane non-biased person could have sat through that game and felt that way.


    it was a great game. the spurs being cockroaches is so true--they just won't die. i still think the series goes 7. the spurs wont go that easily.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    Absolutely, and rightfully so, anyone who's watched this league long enough knows that contact like that made at the end of the game, in a non-shooting situation, is almost never called.

    We just have to deal with the whiny babies/Spurs fans on this board who will moan and b**** about that non-call as "irrefutable evidence" that the fix is in :rolleyes:

    Oh, and did I mention that the Spurs were getting ALL the calls nearly ALL GAME LONG? The Spurs got the full home court treatment tonight to help them even the series, and yet the Lakers showed they were that much better; the game shouldn't have been nearly as close as it was if it wasn't for Spurs home-cooking by the refs and Lakers' inexperience showing in the second half. Otherwise, the game really wasn't as 'competitive' as the final score might indicate. Lakers controlled the game beginning to end, and I don't think they ever trailed (may be once by a point or something).
     
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  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Amen without the Refs falling for all those flops by the Spurs this game would have been a blowout.

    Kobe with ZERO free throws.....ummmm....ok.

    That flop by Bowen as Farmar was running the break was ridiculous.

    DD
     
  13. francis 4 prez

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    spurs - 26 ft's
    lakers - 19 ft's

    duncan - 11 ft's
    kobe - 0 ft's

    fisher's last shot hitting the rim and the shotclock not resetting, forcing the spurs to foul. odom blocking parker but being called for goaltending, giving the spurs 2 free points. clearly the fix was in. the lakers winning by 30 and coming back from 20 and controlling this game even while losing the free throw battle significantly really point to the league fixing it for them. kobe has 6 ft's this entire series.

    but still, the spurs are not done (and i doubt you are as far as watching). all they have to do is win game 5 and this is going 7 and then all bets are off.
     
  14. Icehouse

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    Whyis Barry being blamed for not selling it enough, or shooting the ball immediately, flopping, etc. He was clearly, blatantly fouled. The dude jumped on him. It was a damn foul..they should have called it.

    If it's a clear foul just call it. I hate to see games end on blown calls. Brings back memories from our last Mavs/Rockets series.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    But you know what, it is the Spurs so it really doesn't bother me all that much.

    :D

    DD
     
  16. v3.0

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    too bad so sad
     
  17. Yaozer

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    For someone who really wants the Lakers to win, you sure are very pessimistic. Don't you have faith for the Lakers at all??? I mean they proved to be the better team this series, even after the second half of this game going the Spurs way.
     
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    Someone asked Popovich about the play a couple of times and he said if he was the ref, he wouldn't call the foul either.

    IMO, I thought they should have called the foul before the shot...but if the Spurs think it was a good no call why should anyone else argue?
     
  19. francis 4 prez

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    when have they EVER called fouls at the end of the game? i'm sure you could go back as far as you want and see the NBA hasn't changed in that regard. hell, in the NCAAs you can practically murder someone without a call. they'll at least call something in the NBA. but a bump like that? maybe if you're dwyane wade, but even that's iffy.
     
  20. tigermission1

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    Duncan just added his 'voice of sanity' to the chorus of Spurs players and coaches refusing to b**** about the non-call. The reaction to the 'non-call' by Spurs players and coaching staff is precisely why I've tremendous respect for the Spurs organization (minus Manu, obviously). The classiest winning organization in sports. I dislike the Spurs from a historical perspective, but I have a hard time 'hating' the Spurs organization as a whole and the way they've conducted themselves over the last decade or so of winning basketball.
     

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