The only reason I said Vinnick was because the shows going off the air. It makes no sense if you're trying to keep up something realistic, but it'd be a crazy twist in the end.
Finally watched Sunday's episode. That one was tough. Next week will be very difficult to watch. Like I said earlier, I still have a tough time watching the MASH episode when Henry died. I've seen that hundreds of times. I wonder how far they will take this. I assume the final episode will center around President Bartlett leaving the White House. I know they're supposed to have Sam there in some respects. Did they ever actually say what the outcome of his election was a few seasons back? Either way, they're going out with a bang.
True. I was thinking about it, and the last scene HAS to be Martin Sheen and Stockard Channing either on AF1 or in their house with Sheen looking at her and saying "What's next?" Tie it in to how everything started. It just makes sense.
nice episode tonight sort of makes you want to see the next series with Josh as the future guess it wasn't as emotional as i thought it would be, guess the lack of outgoing emotion from Bartlett, Josh and Santos had a big impact...... whats with no Sam?? wonder if Donna will get a job offer, or if Josh decision not to offer her one and his apartment offer means he wants her rather than offer her a white house job and those complications would really love to see Josh running the show i liked the Toby story line at the time, but with things ending at this series his absence is extremely disappointing, his character and it's mannerisms is/was a big part of the show
Frankly that episode would have been about the perfect way to end the series...We're the past, you're the future, Josh looks back at the White House and grudgingly takes on the task. Done! Anything additional will seem like they are just setting up another season.
The episode was ok, but what more damage can than do in about 3 - 4 more episodes...It'll be interesting to see how they tie everything up and you know, live happily ever after...
This episode was pretty great. The Speaker storyline was meh to me, but everything else was gold. I loved the beginning sequence, where they zoom in on all the different people who were in Leo's life (too bad Sam was missing though). And the part where Jed is obviously heart-stricken by the whole affair but puts on a brave front to comfort everybody at the wake. And the part where everybody was just shooting the breeze and telling stories about Leo. That really had the flavor of one of those classic ensemble scenes, that Sorkin was so good at. Top notch, all the way around. And I agree, this would have been a tremendous way to end the series. If they spend the next few episodes focusing on Santos' transition, it's going to be a serious letdown. Hopefully they got some good stuff up their sleeve to end the series.
Well this episode pretty much sucked. Maybe that's a little harsh. This ep was more of the "filler" variety and that might not be so bad at any other time, but not when there's only 4 episodes left in the entire series. First off I think it's completely unconscionable to bring Sam back and not have him at Leo's funeral. There is absolutely no reason why he shouldn't have been on last week's episode. If we're talking about a time crunch, Josh could have floated the job offer on that show and Sam could have made a decision on this one. And I can't think of any scenario story-wise where Sam wouldn't have been at the funeral. That was just stupid. And I thought the whole good prez/bad prez storyline was weak. It was cutesy, unrealistic, and patently deus ex machina. It was like the "master plan" solution to some cheesy spy novel. One bright spot was that Donna absolutely shined. She is one put together lady. Not "put together" in terms of looks, where she isn't exactly a stunner. But in terms of maturity, and decisive clearheadedness. She's a cool cat.
I saw the preview of the next episode. If they are really gonna make Vinnick the vice president, that is going to be so.. cheesy.
i liked the ep but certainly not the second last episode variety think it was a good summary of josh and great to see Sam back, love to see the Josh, Lou and Sam combo in action permanently
The happy ending message of West Wing, and hence the selection of Vinnick, is that the US govenment should be a cooperative association of centrists instead of the devisive gridlock of idealogues we have now.
I refuse to believe they'd do that. He's gotta be offering him a different position. There's no way he would offer VP to Vinnick.
just rewatched the ep again, think we need to stop reading too much into things and enjoy the show more the byplay between Josh and Sam was a great trip down memory lane and Donna's talk with him 'Just Listen' was awesome
Only 3 episodes left...Sunday's was pretty good with Sam coming back...Good to see how Bartlett and Santos are coordinating the end of the war... I for one can't wait to see how it ends, but the scene from next week with Vinick as a possible VP, crazy and only in TV land...
An awesome way to end the show (not to mention totally unexpected from all of the writers that have ever worked on the show) would be for the whole thing in Kazakhstan to break down and turn into a shooting war between Russia, China, and the US. That is how you go out with a bang. Instead they will probably act like tensions are rising but in the end everyone backs down and we get a touchy feely innauguration. I absolutly knew the writers were not going to have a Republican president (even when they are not even going to be making the show anymore with the new president). I guess they don't want to stray too far from their comfort zone. Jesus, even the one Republican that gets significant time (Vinnick) is a pro-choice athiest. Ah well, at least the quality of the show is better than most.
Well, the writers did have Vinnick winning the election before Spencer's death. Also, isn't Vinnick agnostic rather than atheist? Did they ever come out and say he was an atheist? Just because he doesn't want to pander to the South by saying things he doesn't believe doesn't mean he doesn't believe in God. Oh, and I'm Nostradumbass.
So they say, but they didn't go through with it. Why? Because they thought losing Leo and the election would be too much to put the characters through. Not the actors mind you, the characters. What a load. They can say whatever they want, the point is the writers lean pretty far to the left and they wrote the show that way. During its entire run, about the only right leaning thing I can remember them doing was going after the terrorist. I wish we could have more episodes with a new cast, but it was pretty good while it lasted. Oh, and I don't know how Josh can go after Donna instead of his ultra-hot ex, Amy Gardner (Mary-Louise Parker).
A. ML Parker has really aged in the couple of years since we've seen her B. How could you stand to be with a woman with a one track femnist issue rap.
Vinnick as VP, crazy liberal thinking, but it didn't happen...As Sect. of State, ok...Looking for schools, staffing,etc, it was kinda odd, but a decent show...I can't wait for the next two to wrap things up...
