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We're a GREAT regular season team, but are already seeing the signs....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Texanasiafan

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    The game has changed.

    There are so many great PGs in the league now.

    To win the battle against these great PGs is not to find a great defender against them the whole game.

    Its all about to find a great PG of your own and then make them spending the energy to either guard you or adapting your style.

    Bev is an excellent defender, his main value is to contain the other great PG but not hoping to stop them, as long as the other PG does not go crazy and go on a long run, he will be doing a good job.

    James Harden, on the other hand, actually is playing defense by his offense on the other team.
     
  2. rm365

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    Actually the okc bigs were a big reason they beat the spurs last playoffs. They are underrated.
     
  3. YaoMing#1

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    100% I like there bigs.

    If Adams and kanter player in houston with harden they would be balling out of control every night.

    Look at last night it's the 3rd quartet the thunder are down big and olidipo had 6 points and had taken I think 4 shots Adams had 8 and had taken I think 5 shots kanter had 5-6 points? Nobody was in a rhythm till Russ left the game and then those guys got rolling and no surprise they came back and actually took the lead on a three from olidipo.

    I don't buy that there's not a lot of talent on that team. There's plenty of talent on that team. Do they have the shooters we have? No but nobody's does outside of GS and maybe the Cavs. But they have three really good players in olidipo/Adams/kanter and then a few nice young guys that can shoot and should be contributing more.

    Russ doesn't make guys better and everyone including the coach is scared to say something to him.
     
  4. MrButtocks

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    Get rid of Beverley and watch our defense collapse. I can't imagine who we could upgrade him with that isn't an all-star. Who else is going to grab 6+ rebounds, shoot 41% from downtown, get 1.5 steals, and boast a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio? Let's not overreact because Jennings was unusually hot.
     
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    If he played in the 4th he wouldn't need to make GW FTs. We're lucky it worked out that way.
     
  6. banzai

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    What exactly is not working here? We are waiting for Capela to get healthy. What seed are you wanting us to end up? You know morey is all about flexibility. We are winning games... putting together win streaks like we have been takes a whole lot.
     
  7. YOLO

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    absolutely no way you would know that
     
  8. YallMean

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    If we get OKC in the first round, we should be fine. Then Spurs the second round. It will be tough but LMA and Paul Gasol are not plow down bully type of bigs. So I am thinking we may be able to get away with it. If we somehow meet GSW in the WCF, then we don't need a big to match theirs as you think imperative. This scenario is very likely.
    I am all for improving us in 5 and get a defensive big, but do not want us to botch the current lineup just for that. We shouldn't touch our core for a trade to get a big.
     
  9. fallenphoenix

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    Obviously, I don't have a crystal ball, but the only reason they closed the gap in the 4th was because we had no interior defense and we went cold from 3. Previously when Nene was playing he shut down any hope they have of an inside game, and once they put Harrell in they feasted on him.
     
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    I completely agree, we need another Big to help with rebounding and interior defense.
     
  11. YOLO

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    pretty much already addressed why nene wasn't in the game in the first place. that's more important in the long run then playing him extended minutes when that's never the plan from the moment houston signed him.

    btw i disagree, kanter was giving him problems just as much as any of our other bigs.
     
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  12. SamFisher

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    He did play in the fourth, up to his minutes limit. Then he sat when they wanted to get Ryno back in the game.

    After he left, it's not like Kanter ran wild.

    He did not have a single field goal after Nene sat down. He had 2 FT's. He got one offensive board, after which he missed a layup that the Rockets rebounded. He grabbed a few defensive boards.

    How is it that you figure a gassed Nene slams the door shut?
     
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  13. rocketsballin

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    we have excellent team rebounding and when capela is back we'll be fine. the only problem on rebouding is ryan, yhe needs to step it up on that end.

    defense is the problem. top 15 isnt good enough to contend.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    Rockets have entered a cheat code.

    Only be a top 10 defense when the game is on the line.

    It's science.

    You can't argue with science
     
  15. rocketsballin

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    u can argue with science since its the best knowledge at the time, then later it gets changed cuz scientists got smarter, then changed again, and again, and why are scientists dying at an alarming rate now, or should i say.."suicided"? lol coincidence nothing to see here
     
  16. iNoseBleedRed

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    Yao Ming or Omer asik would be perfect on this team
     
  17. fallenphoenix

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    I get that Nene was in a minute count. My take away is our post defense is going to be an issue whenever and Nene Clint are out.

    Pray to the basketball gods they stay healthy.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Yes, the league is starting to figure us out.

    DD
     
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  19. HardenTime

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    The problem with morey is that he goes after 2 types of players. Specialist and stars.. he rarely goes after players who can do multiple things. The eric gordon signing was a step in the right direction. But then you go and spend 20 million on steve novak 2.0 in ryan anderson. Their are plenty of players out there that i am describing. I think dekker has the potential to be what im describing.( he should be starting). Bev and ariza while good are limited players. Look at Curry and Lebron's roster, hell even the bucks. We need a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft somehow or to sign free agents
     
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