Nobody has hope for these lovebirds but me??? Manny, don't give up unless you're ready to. If you ain't got nothing better to do, and if you enjoy your time with her then enjoy the ride. Leave your emotional baggage at the station. Maybe it won't work out, but after only four dates -- and hardly any smooching -- it's got to be worth a shot. Be the most fun you can be. Be relaxed. Call when you want. Recognize that it may not be a lifelong thing -- but that's OK too. Remember, she too may be struggling with her feelings. In the end, decide if you really like and respect her as a person. If you do, then it's worth the effort. Even more so if she's a hotty. And if its not to be, then at least you'll be comfortable you gave it a good try. Keep us posted.
Yea, I know bnb, that it seems too early to throw in the towel, but it feels like the right thing to do now . I hate to do it, but you can't make someone fall in love with you unless they are interested & I don't think she is...anymore. However, I guess I'll find out for sure.
Match.com, Manny. My advice might suck, but, I'll give it anyway. There are TOO many great looking, decent women out there that want a relationship/marriage/booty call/special-friend, to waste your time on someone who isn't 'sure' about even kissing you. If you don't meet many people, then LeG, had a good idea in the Match.com idea. Hell, if I didn't have so many women after me, I'd give it a try .
For future reference, I would cut back on the phone calls. Its my experience that women want a challenge. Being nice and all is good, but it seems like you're being too nice to this chick. I would say in the future, call her for a date, then let her initiate the next call for a date. Dating doesn't suck, dating this one woman sucks. The key to dating is to not get bummed out when it doesnt work out, you did everything you could(probably too much). Its like a sales call or a basketball game, you cant win em all.
Good luck Manny. Do what feels right for you. Don't try to project what you think she might be thinking. Hope it works out well.
That is so true! I'm going through the same thing right now. Friday my girlfriend decided she didn't want to be my girlfriend. We were both bummed about it, I called Sunday and Monday, then stopped calling since then. I start getting IMs from her last night about how she still has strong feelings and she wants to visit me this weekend. I told her I already have really good plans for Saturday, and I could tell she was jealous. We had plans to go to the company Xmas party next weekend a while back, and I wasn't sure if she'd be too excited about it, but last night she starts asking me about what type of dress she should buy. Who knows though, women are too confusing. That's why I am not too concerned with how this plays out. If it works out I'll be happy because I care a lot about her. If it doesn't, I'll just increase my post count here, try to set up a bunch of pick up basketball games, go to almost every home game, and maybe try to set up gatherings to watch the road games. Plus I think my PS2 and Vice City is just gathering dust right now. Just try to look at the positives of both sides Manny. Back off for now and find some other things to keep you entertained. B
LMAO that was hilarious.. I agree with what most of the others said.I'd just consider her a friend and look eleswhere..maybe she comes around later but if not don't continue letting the situation tear at you..good luck man ..there are millions of others to choose from.
Just got done talking to her to tell her that Friday was off. I don't know if she is still coming to the concert, but I said she didn't have to. She said something to the effect of "Well, I guess we should hope for better luck the next time....just let me know the next time you call ..." I didn't have the heart to tell her that there would not be a next time...at least not unless I am returning a call of hers. God, this sucks. Oh well, I guess as TJ would say RELATIONSHIP OVER aka CASE CLOSED!!
Yeah, go on a CD buying binge...that's always fun. However, you are overanalyzing again. Don't make too much out of "you call".
If she calls back later and asks why you haven't called her in a while, do you have an answer? If not how about something like..."I didn't want to get in the way of you and your boyfriend."
how about "my friends on this really cool computer bulletin board told me not to! ... hello? ... hello? ..."
(wearing trenchcoat and hat) Well sorry Manny. I still wouldn't give up all hope because you don't know where her heart lies. She may be having as big a problem with her behavior as you do. You'll find out though. Let me buy you a beer, kid. (turns to the band) Play it again, Sam.
Cheek kissing sucks. You might as well just kiss her arm pit. Kiss her hand, instead, if she won't let you lip her. Or, suck on her big toe . Cheek kissing is almost like the kiss of death in my opinion. You want to cheek kiss...go to Europe and they cheek kiss you even though your a complete stranger. Aren't the guys even cheek kissing over there? LOL. I'm still looking for that one place where ass kissing is customary.
I see some good advice here Manny, and sadly I have to agree with a lot of it. I think it may be time to throw in the towel on this lady. The level of interest seems to have dropped. If she's pulling away from a simple kiss on the fourth date, than there is something very wrong. The first date? Sure. But not the fourth. Either she is very conflicted with this alleged "other mystery man" or she has her own issues to deal with. Just my $.02 man. Hope it all works out for you in the end, you seem like a great guy who deserves much better. good luck