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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MemphisX, Mar 26, 2004.

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  1. barbourdg

    barbourdg Member

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    I hate to admit it, but Memphis is the better team (at the moment). The Rockets are not far behind on the win total, but GEE how many ugly games have we won to get us close to Memphis?

    As ESPN put it recently, they got the STEAL OF THE FA MARKET! James Posey. I wonder what our team would be doing right now with Posey at the 2 and JJ at the 3 and Cuttiono off the bench?

    I wonder where Memphis would be without Posey?
     
  2. room4rentsf

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    Memphis congratulations on having a team you can actually be proud of. =P that being said we will still go into your house and eat all your food! hahaha

    Go ROx!

    J
     
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    for the 15th gazillionth time, we would not have been able to sign JJ if we still had posey, theres something called the cap. Its either JJ or posey, not both. Which id better? that is a matter of opinion, but u can not have both.
     
  4. Sane

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    Man, have you seen Yao recently?

    I am honestly completely shocked out of my mind with the aggressiveness he's been showing. For the last 3 months, he's been as good as Shaq, if not better.

    Unless Swift can come up with another big game and J-Will can defend Francis, you're going to have a tough time.
     
  5. bnb

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    MemphisX said it best in a previous Grizzlies thread:

    Memphis is playing to their full potential. The Rockets should be better then they are. This is why Memphis rejoices while Houston grumbles even though the teams are just a few games apart.

    If only we had Memphis's management and coaching, and Houston's talent...
     
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    Well, to use one quote from the Yang Yi book about the chance of Yao going to Memphis: "Absolutely no chance.":eek:
     
  7. barbourdg

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    First of all, its the first time I have personally mentioned the possibility of "What if?" and my question had more to do with (WHAT IF?) moving JP to the 2 and JJ to the 3 (cuttino 6th man) would of done for the Rockets record, and what would memphis's record be without JP?

    Second, if the Rockets wanted Posey and JJ, they could of had both. its called dumping contracts, trades, or whatever it takes to clear up room to make it happen. They could of dumped Rices contract (and ?), made the sign for JJ and then signed JP. Since he was there FA, they could of tapped into the salary cap if they really wanted him. If I remember correctly, they let JP go before dumping Rice's contract.

    I think the decision was made from VG to not re-sign Posey.
     
  8. Sane

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    We could've had JJ and Posey. JJ makes almost nothing, like 1M. No need to dump anything.

    It's just that the organization didn't think Posey was worth what Memphis offered him which may or may not have been true.
     
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    if this guy was a die hard when they sucked,and especially if when they were the vancouver grizzlies, they let him have his fun,as long as he's not a bandwagoner ,but its ok rockets are still better
     
  10. ucansee2020

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    As I recall, I don't think Rox could have afforded Posey at that time due to the cap issues. Posey was just too expensive for Rox to keep for a role player. Memphis made him an offer that we just couldn't match.
     
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    That's the thing tho. Memphis may be close to their ceiling (which is to be applauded), but that ceiling may be too low to win it all. The Rockets and have a much higher ceiling (which is nice) but can't seem to reach their potential. Both situations are difficult, but most GM's and owners would rather have the Rockets' problem.
     
  12. Sane

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    It's funny because I was reading an article the other day on ESPn and they were talking about how Minnesota would be ecstatic to get Memphis rather than Houston in the playoffs.

    If the Blazers make the playoffs, then Memphis will probably be the team that everyone wants to face in the playoffs. Not that they're bad, it's just that they have so little experience on that squad. Gasol, Swift, Lo-Wright, Posey, Mike Miller, Earl Watson. The only guys who have good experience are Bonzi and J-Will.

    Who wants to face Yao Ming? Mobley, Weatherspoon, JJ, and Cato have been to the playoffs, while MJ and Oakley have rarely missed it.

    The Rockets have played playoff style basketball all season, and JVG has been preparing them for it. We have improved in every single month of the season. Yao Ming is just peaking now, and so is Steve Francis.

    I'm happy for the Grizzlies, but as Cassidy puts it, it don't get no betta for them. This is everything they have to offer. Can anyone see them turn it up a notch in the playoffs? They're able to sustain this through the season by playing with a large rotation. However, in the playoffs, every single team will match that intensity regardless of their rotation and they'll be able to sustain it simply because... it's the playoffs.

    Despite all this, I think it's fair to assume they'll make the second round if they face the Mavs. The Mavericks will get picked apart in the playoffs.
     
  13. Sane

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    This is false. We could afford him, but wouldn't be able to afford much else.

    We signed AG, Pike, JJ, MJ and Oakley. Had we signed Posey, we'd probably be able to afford one of these 4 guys. Safe to say, had we signed this trio:

    Posey
    JJ
    MJ


    We would probably be in a better position.

    But hindsight is 20/20, and I was happy with their decision at the time. The Grizzlies system is seemingly tailor-made for Posey, so who knows if we would have been as good with the Rockets.
     
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    Sane, I agree with most your statements, but Memphis has had their way with most of the western conference this year. I would not be surprised to see them pull a major upset this year. Unlike the ugly ball the Rockets normally play (when not passing to Yao), they are playing good team ball.

    If you look at their stats, they are nearly the oppostite of the Rockets in the west:

    Memphis - western conference - 26-18 (the rockets are 18-23)
    Memphis - division - 11-8 (the rockets are 7-11)

    sane, just noticed we join CC at the same time - june 2000
    :rolleyes:
     
  15. Sane

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    If they play the Mavs, they'll win, but I can't see how they would otherwise.

    Looking at the records and everything, it doesn't look like they'll face the Mavs anyway. They'll probably end up 5th, having to play the 4th seeded Wolves, Spurs, Lakers or Kings. Do you honestly think they can beat any of these teams?
     
  16. HillBoy

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    Wait until you read the posts here when the Rockets clinch a playoff berth...
     
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    Nice.......funny.........change is in the air.
     
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    and the Grizzly Bear said, I caught a fish "This big" ;)
     
  19. Rocket104

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    Props to MemphisX and the Grizzlies... note how he keeps it civil .
     
  20. HillBoy

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    Not that good, hmmm. Let's take a look at the standings as of today:

    The standings as of today shows Memphis currently in 3rd place in the Midwest Division with a record of 45-26. The Rockets are currently in 5th place in the Midwest Division with a record of 41-29. If we take a look at the current playoff standings for the Western Conference, Memphis is in the 5th spot while the Rockets hold the 7th spot.

    Now if, as you say, Memphis is NOT that good and they have BOTH a better record AND a higher playoff seed than the Rockets, then what exactly does that say about the Rockets?

    My point here is the Rockets have given us no reason to turn our noses up at ANY team let alone a team that has the better record. What you say about Memphis' chances in the playoffs can just as easily be said about the Rockets' playoff chances as well.
     
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