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Weisbrod helped deliver Howard, Nelson

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  1. whoisray

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    Weisbrod helped deliver Howard, Nelson
    By Peter May, Special to Yahoo Sports! 2 hours, 0 minutes ago

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    The man largely responsible for Dwight Howard’s presence in an Orlando Magic uniform was in New Hampshire over the weekend, doing what he does the best and loves the most: scouting college players at a hockey game.

    “Basketball is not hockey to me,’’ John Weisbrod was saying. “I’m still a hockey guy at heart.”

    This “hockey guy” – he played at Harvard and coached in the minors – nonetheless found himself running the Magic in the critical spring and summer of 2004. Elevated to the position of general manager in March 2004, Weisbrod, who had no basketball background whatsoever, but a boatload of athletic experience as a hockey player and executive, signed off on four big decisions in the space of two weeks in June and July.

    Five years later, they almost all look like no-brainers. But after that frenzied two-week stretch yielded Howard, Jameer Nelson, Hedo Turkoglu and hastened the departure of Tracy McGrady, Weisbrod was vilified by fans (had there been a blogosphere the size of today’s, it would have been exponentially worse), received bags of hate mail (some of which he still retains) and for a while had to move into an area hotel under an assumed name because of death threats. The FBI installed surveillance cameras at his house.

    If you Yahoo search the words “polarizing” and “Weisbrod,” your computer will explode. It wasn’t easy.

    “It’s strange looking back on how it all worked out,’’ Weisbrod said after a day of meetings with his current employer, the Boston Bruins, for whom he scouts. “I had had a history of team-building in hockey and I thought I could do the job with the Magic. We needed to blow it up and start all over and I knew it was not going to be pretty. It was a hectic time – but a good time.”

    The Magic ended up with the No. 1 overall pick in 2004 and the choice was quickly pared to two: the young, athletic, upside-laden Howard and the dependable, more-seasoned and incredibly polished Emeka Okafor. Howard was a risk because he was in high school. Could he be the next Kwame Brown? Okafor was more of a sure thing, having played three years at Connecticut and winning an NCAA title along the way. In all his years coaching at UConn, coach Jim Calhoun puts Okafor on his own Mt. Rushmore along with Ray Allen and Ben Gordon.

    Weisbrod didn’t act in a vacuum. He leaned heavily on his basketball people, current GM Otis Smith and current assistant GM Dave Twardzik. But, in the end, he made the call. And even though Okafor won the Rookie of the Year award, and even though Okafor was named to the 2004 Olympic team, there isn’t an executive in the NBA who would take him over Howard, who won gold in Beijing and became the first player to amass 3 million All-Star votes.

    “I had always tried to use character as the deciding factor in evaluating players, but, in this case, it was hard because they were both outstanding individuals,’’ Weisbrod recalled. “It then became about the basketball part. Dwight was not as much of a finished product, and in that way, he was more of a gamble. He had more hurdles to climb. But when you calculate a guy’s chances to improve, you look at character and he was flawless. The more time I spent with him, the more I said to myself, ‘He is to going to bring it to bear every day because he is so earnest, so hard-working.’ I had no difficulty seeing him get to where he has gotten. He had it in him.”

    The Magic also were a bit worried about Okafor’s physical condition. While he had been reasonably healthy at UConn, in his first four years in the NBA, Okafor missed a total of 80 games. Howard missed none. And Weisbrod knew the Magic were more than a player away from becoming a very good team and had time to wait and allow the ridiculously talented Howard to develop. Nonetheless, Weisbrod has a vivid memory of the fans in New York booing when David Stern announced that Orlando was taking Howard ahead of the better-known Okafor.

    “There were times when I went back and forth, but that was early on in the process,’’ Weisbrod said. “I think as long as two or three weeks before the draft, we were clear what we were going to do. And we felt good about it.

    “It has been gratifying to watch Dwight’s career and see it come to fruition. But to me, the most stressful part of that [draft] night was not making the Howard pick, but the Jameer Nelson trade.”

    Indeed, Weisbrod couldn’t shake a grin when he got an e-mail last week from one of his former workers at Orlando. Nelson had been chosen as a reserve for the Eastern Conference All-Stars.

    “We had agreed to trade a future No. 1 to Denver, who was picking 20th. Jameer was the only one we wanted,’’ Weisbrod said. “And we had to sweat it out because there were a number of picks out there between the time we made the trade and the time Denver made the pick for us.

    “That part was the icing on the cake for us and, in some ways, more memorable because it literally went down to the wire. And it is also gratifying to see him succeed.”

    With those two in the fold, Weisbrod then moved McGrady to Houston five days later. To many, that is what he is most remembered for in his stint as the Magic general manager. McGrady was still popular in Orlando, but Weisbrod wanted more of a team identity. And, although he didn’t say it, it was clear that McGrady was not a “hockey guy.”

    Weisbrod readily admits the deal (the principals were Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley) didn’t pan out as hoped but he said McGrady, whom he had named captain and received league permission to put a “C” on McGrady’s uniform, simply had to go. T-Mac wanted out. Weisbrod was happy to accommodate him.

    “We were changing a culture and it didn’t work out with Steve. He had been such a ferocious competitor in Houston and we thought he might have got swept along with what we were doing,’’ he said. “But if we had kept Tracy, you have to wonder: Would Dwight have developed so quickly?”

    Two weeks later, Turkoglu came aboard as a free agent. Weisbrod was ripped for overpaying the ex-King by giving him the full, midlevel exception. Eight days after that, another character guy, ex-Celtic Tony Battie, was acquired, although it cost the Magic Drew Gooden (no great loss) as well as someone Weisbrod thought might really help them down the road: second-round pick Anderson Varejao.

    “I thought he would complement Dwight quite well,’’ Weisbrod said.

    At that point, Weisbrod was almost persona non grata in Orlando. But as he looks back on his handiwork from that time, he can’t help but feel happy. Howard may be the one player not named LeBron who any exec would choose to build a team around. Nelson and Turkoglu are solid; the latter was named the NBA’s Most Improved Player last season and could well have been an All-Star. The Magic are among the top four teams in the league, record-wise.

    Weisbrod spent 14 months as the general manager before returning to his first love. He still follows the Magic, still counts friends in the organization, but if there’s a choice on television between a hockey game and a basketball game, he’s going with the former. He has an unabashed love not only for the sport, but for the camaraderie it engenders, something he doesn’t see as much in basketball.

    “I used to tell my players, if you’re on the bench, and you look to the left and then to the right, you have to be able to say to yourself, ‘I will take a bullet for either one of those guys.’ It makes you tough,’’ he said. “In basketball, there’s a lot more individualism and egotism and it’s harder to get that kind of mentality. I’m not saying one is better than the other, but I do think it comes more naturally in hockey. Then again, that’s what I am: a hockey player.”

    A hockey player who made one of the most crucial basketball decisions of the decade – and looks all the smarter for it as the years roll on.
     
  2. Easy

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    The McGrady deal wasn't even Weisbrod's worst trade. The Mobley for Christie was worse. It wasn't just bad in terms of talent and value. It ruined their chemistry and hastened Francis' downfall. What made it even dumber was that he didn't do his home work and check Christie's health condition.

    He gambled on Howard and won. The only solid decision he made was the Nelson pick.
     
  3. ElPigto

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    What about signing Hedo Turkoglu? Heck, even getting Rashard Lewis (although overpriced) but it has worked out for them. He has built a solid team around Dwight.
     
  4. ivanyy2000

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    Looking back, he made several solid decisions which turned out great for the Magic.

    The only bad one was the the Mobley and Christie trade. And it was a fatal one. Like you said, it ruined their chemistry and resulted in their free fall of the second half.

    Other than that, I think Weisbrod was a solid GM, certainly better than quite a lot of GMs in the league.
     
  5. foodworld

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    How about giving away Drew Gooden and Anderson Varejao? Was that one of his?
     
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    Peter May is also a horrible, horrible hack without the tiniest iota of talent or insight. He flatters whoever gives him an inside "scoop," which is why he pandered to the horrible Celtics ownership (under Gaston) for years. He's so bitter with the new Celtics organization that he blasted the KG trade, after spending years lamenting Danny Ainge's "incompetence."

    Don't listen to him.
     
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    See here is the thing, those are solid role players, but its not as if the teams development was held because they let those role players go.
     
  8. Dave_78

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    He sucked as a GM. Yes, some of his decisions did ultimately work out but they were either no brainers (picking Howard), moves he was forced to make (trading McGrady) and some plain old luck (Jameer Nelson becoming good).

    I like his toughness but he was not a very good GM and if I remember correctly he had a habit of saying things to the media that should not have been said.
     
  9. Scientific1

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    He wasnt part of the deal with Rashard.


    i remember when he left the Magic, I thought Dwight was going to be like Durant is in OKC. At the time letting Tracy go was a horrible move, and Wiesbrod didnt handle the situation with any professionalism.
     
  10. foodworld

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    I don't understand why, however, it's worth flattering Weisbrod because he had the #1 pick in the draft and Howard was on board. It's like digging up whoever drafted Shaq and writing a puff piece about him.

    As far as the "genius" of taking Nelson, he wasn't even the best guard available in the draft at his spot--Delonte West is just as talented, and plays a more winning brand of basketball. Kevin Martin is better than both.

    At the time, the trades that brought in Francis, Christie and Battie were obvious dogs. Even GMs like Larry Bird publicly commented to that effect.

    I'm sorry, but Weisbrod was a pompous idiot in over his head. So is Peter May.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    you guys are funny, alot of people said draft okafor
     
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    AFAIK, they had to draft Howard because Charlotte wanted Okafor and would have used one of their expansion picks on a player involved in the T-Mac trade, either Howard or Lue, who was unprotected, unless Orlando took Howard.

    I thought Christie for Mobley was a steal - for the Magic, though. It didn't work out because he was just old; and, at that point in his career, coming off a very successful, tight playoff team, just didn't want to lend a hand to a rebuilding project, much less one without a decent coach.
     
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    Okafor had more experience and was physically stronger but he was and still is more of a 16/8 type of guy and isn't tall either.Even lay fans could tell that he wasn't a number 1 pick talent.
    On the other hand it was very difficult for a guy like me to project what a long,tall,athletic big man straight out of high school would be able to do. I wasn't sure if he had KG like skills.
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    No he didn't. Many people were saying Okur should be the no. 1 pick. He also got Jameer Nelson and hedo which is the core of their team. He also got rid of Tmac which might have hurt in the short term, but might have hurt dwight's progress in the long term. He was right about Tmac being a wuss.
     
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    Actually, it was Gooden, Varejao, and Steven Hunter for Battie and two second rounders that added up to nothing. Really bad trade at the time, horrible trade now.
     
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    Weisbrod suks as a GM. The article writer failed to acknowledge the bad thing during his tenure as a Magic GM.

    Cons:
    1) His handling of the Mcgrady situation--pissing off your superstar.

    2) The Tony Battie trade.

    3) The Doug Christie trade.

    However, I think we should all learn from his quote above. The difference between a player's success or failure often time hinges on the guy's character. You can certainly see the difference between Kwame Brown and Dwight Howard.
     
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    And its especially interesting if you look at Greg Oden, who according to the media, also has a solid character and a good work ethic.

    Now so far Oden hasn't panned out, but maybe down the road.......
     
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    Unintentionally buildng a terrible team that gets a high draft pick isn't an accomplishment or else we'd be lauding the Bidwells for their 10-year project of rebuilding the Cardinals into NFC champions.
     
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    You guys are haters. Yeah, those other trades were bad ones, but the guy made the right choice in Howard, and that offsets everything else he did IMO. Centers are so rare in this league, and lots of folks thought Okafor was the better pick. You guys make it seem like Howard was the clear cut choice, or like GM's don't blow #1 picks all the time....

    Howard was a risk, it paid off. He traded up for Nelson. We slob Morey daily for trading up for Landry, so how can you not applaud for trading up for an all-star PG....one who lots of other teams thought would struggle at that spot in the pros? Everyone thought he was an idiot to give Turk that $$ and now most consider Turk underpaid. Give the man his props.....
     
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    That's like saying CD got us Yao and that offsets every bad move he made. CD was lucky to have Yao on the board when we had the #1 pick. Sure it's his credit that he picked Yao rather than Jay Williams when a lot of people thought Jay was a surer choice.

    How was it Weisbrod's credit when Howard happened to be available when their team sucked enough to get the #1 pick?

    You are right. Many people thought Okafor was better, and it was true. Okafor was clearly a sure thing. And he is. But Howard clearly had a higher ceiling. Nobody, including Weisbrod, knew how good he would turn out. It's a gamble. He could have become a Bynum type of player that took years to develop and still not clear if he's a franchise material.

    Yes, as I said earlier. I think the Nelson picked was a good decision. Turkaglu however was just another gamble. This kind of deal could make a GM look like an idiot when it didn't pan out.
     

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