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[weird]The prodigal governor returns

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  1. Batman Jones

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    More is indeed dripping out. Today it was revealed that he met with his mistress many more times than he initially disclosed, he described the relationship not as an affair but as a "love story" in which the mistress is his soulmate but he is trying to fall back in love with his wife, and he admitted inappropriate contact with several other women though he "did not cross the sex line."

    Again, none of this is relevant for the cheating, but it is very relevant for the hypocrisy and the continuing dishonesty with the voting public.

    It would surprise me if he is allowed to serve out his term with the drip, drip, dripping that continues to take place.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    he should resign because he 1) disappeared for 5 days and left noone in-charge 2) and blatantly lied where he was and was unreachable 3) while using state money/resources 4) just to cheat on his wife
     
  3. A_3PO

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    Now I think he's gone. This latest stuff will sink him. The SC Lt. Governor made an offer to serve out Sanford's term and not run for the governor's office in 2010.

    Vote GOP: The party of God and family values.
     
  4. Deckard

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    I agree that he has to be history as governor any day now. I thought he'd have to resign when I first heard about it, but these new revelations (from his own flapping mouth) make it a certainty.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Good googlymoogly it's hilarious to read this after the libs' impassioned defense of William Jefferson Clinton's actions with a young intern. What utter hypocrisy on display.
     
  6. The_Yoyo

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    found this funny not sure if it was posted before looks like Fox News strikes again!


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  7. juicystream

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    There is no party of values. They are all liars.
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    I've never defended Clinton's actions during or after the affair and I never voted for him. Nice try though. Oh, wait. No it wasn't.
     
  9. Batman Jones

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    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=2E718AC9-18FE-70B2-A8FD1CFCA03A47CF

    Four reasons Sanford has a future
    By: Roger Simon
    June 30, 2009 04:22 AM EST

    Mark Sanford only looks washed up. True, as governor of South Carolina, he recently walked off his job to secretly visit his mistress in Argentina. And, true, he was forced to admit his affair in a news conference that made him look stressed out at best and unbalanced at worst.

    And, true, at first glance, this appears to have cost him any chance of getting the Republican presidential nomination in 2012. But only at first glance. In reality, there are at least four things Sanford has going for him:

    1. He knows how to use people. Before you can lead people, you have to know how to exploit them. When Sanford first ran for Congress in 1994, it was his wife, according to The Washington Post, who actually ran the campaign, even though she “had a 15-month-old and a newborn to care for.” And, as the years went by, she “oversaw his staff, drafted his speeches, set policy and raised money.”

    And how did Sanford repay her? By betraying and humiliating her, of course. But that is OK, because now he is really, really sorry and he is asking for God’s forgiveness and her forgiveness and the public’s forgiveness, which is really no more than he deserves.

    And he deserves it, he says, because his plight is just like the plight of King David. “David failed, literally, and yet he reconstructed his life, put it back together and became a guy who was after God’s spirit,” Sanford recently told reporters. “So I would say I’m on the larger voyage.”

    Why do I get the impression, by the way, that Sanford’s image of King David is drawn not from the Bible so much as from the 1951 Darryl Zanuck epic “David and Bathsheba,” in which Gregory Peck sins but still ends up with Susan Hayward?

    No matter. Sanford knows how to use people and religion. He now seeks forgiveness without real atonement. So is this guy a player or what?

    2. He already has embarrassed himself as much as he can. It takes some politicians years to get to where Sanford is now.

    First, the entire world knows that he wrote the following e-mail to his mistress: “The erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of night’s light.”

    Whoa! Slap some parental controls on this guy’s e-mail account!

    But, hey, it can’t get any worse, right? Well, maybe. A number of South Carolinians are angry that Sanford apparently used tax dollars to visit his mistress last summer and disappeared from his job this summer to canoodle with her while law enforcement agencies were spending tax dollars to find out whether he was dead, kidnapped, etc. Sanford says he will pay some of the money back, but that may not end his problems. If you embezzle funds, for instance, get caught and then offer to give the money back, you can still end up wearing prison orange.

    But assuming Sanford is not actually doing time during the 2012 primary season, he will have a strong selling point. He will be able to say: “You already know everything that is wrong with me. With the other guys, you are just guessing.”

    3. He knows how to fool all of the press some of the time and some of the press all of the time. On June 24, the morning that Sanford held a news conference to announce he was having an affair, The Washington Post ran an article that stated: “The governor, it should be noted, is quite happily married.”

    Whoops. Rewind. But that can happen. We journalists are limited in our abilities to know what is going on behind closed doors. What is most interesting, however — and most encouraging for Sanford’s future political career — is that some journalists don’t care about his lies and betrayal of public trust even after they learn of them.

    A recent article in The New Republic addressed those who find fault with Sanford by saying: “Give it a rest. The man didn’t commit murder here. He’s in love.” (How the writer knows that Sanford is in love and not in lust — a condition far more common in middle-aged men bored with their marriages — she does not say.)

    She gives another reason, however, to “give it a rest” when it comes to criticizing Sanford: “The woman involved, Maria, was not offensively younger than he.”

    Sanford is 49 and Maria Belen Chapur, his mistress, is 41. But what if she were 31? Would that change anything? And who gets to decide what “offensively younger” is? How about Sanford’s wife, Jenny, who is 46? Not that we need to care about her feelings, after all. Or do we? Which leads us to our next point.

    4. If he can get the missus in line, he is home free. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) says so. Appearing on “Meet the Press With David Gregory” on Sunday, Graham said the people of South Carolina are “very disappointed in what he did as Mark the individual and his malfeasance at, at times, but they can reconcile the two only if, if Jenny and Mark can get back together. I think the people of South Carolina will give him a second chance.”

    So it is very important that his wife forgive him. But will she? “He was told in no uncertain terms not to see her,” Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press recently, speaking of her husband and his mistress. “It’s tragic.”

    Jenny Sanford said she discovered her husband’s affair when she came across a letter he had written to his mistress. She said she was “shocked and obviously deeply hurt.”

    “I didn’t think he had it in him,” she said.

    Which is another thing Mark Sanford has going for him: People are always underestimating him.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Today, in addition to admitting he "crossed lines" with a "handful" of other women ("I didn't inhale"), Sanford said the woman in Argentina is his "soul mate" and that he is "trying to fall back in love with his wife". Point #2 in the above article has been proven wrong IMO.

    If Sanford was the mayor of San Francisco, he would have a great chance to ride out the storm no matter what his wife did.
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    Of course, Gavin Newsome never based an entire campaign on being closer to God than his opponent.
     
  12. juicystream

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    I could never vote for him. Between the level of his affair, and the flaky way he has handled himself, I could never trust him, or have confidence in his ability.
     
  13. rocket3forlife2

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    Just image if Obama did this..Do you really think the G.O.P would be so compassionate and understanding? I don't think you would here the phrase "it's a bi partisan problem" if that was the case.
     
  14. mc mark

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    I kin garendamteeya if'n Sanford was ****in' a guy, he wouldn' be no govner no more!

    dam straight!
     
  15. Batman Jones

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  16. Rocketman95

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    i don't think some people understand the word hypocrite.
     
  17. gifford1967

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    I just can't believe this guy is out there talking about how his mistress is his "soul mate" and that he's "trying to fall back in love with his wife." He must really have a lot of suppressed anger towards her, because those words are like daggers. And since his political future most likely depends on saving his marraige, Sanford is also sabotaging himself.
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    he has no political future other than punditry. people can forgive those who go outside the marriage, but there's no way he's ever going to get past the circumstances. nor should he.
     
  19. A_3PO

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    Bingo. I have no sympathy for the guy but I cringed after reading that. Sanford either has no concept of damage control or maybe he's doing public penance to flog himself.
     
  20. juicystream

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    He had those things in 2002. That was before he fell in love. :eek:
     

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