I am guessing that has to do with Hillary Clinton's impression as being more of a fighter than Barack Obama. I was a Hillary Clinton supporter during the primaries but honestly I am not sure if she could've done a better job than Obama. The one big difference I think would've happened is Health Care might've been passed sooner as she probably would've held the Democrats more in line but other than that I think things might largely be the same.
You people seriously believe Reaganomics stopped sulphur rain in America? Perhaps yes, we export jobs and factories elsewhere. Maybe we cannot export global warming, but who says it is my choice to stop global warming? Your obedience blinds you, perhaps.
He did pass a very controversial budget, he passed welfare reform, Don't Ask Don't Tell (even though many are happy that it ended and didn't like DADT it was a big step for the time when the military was actively rooting out homosexuals), and reduced regulation on financial markets. While a lot of people might not agree with those things they were significant pieces of legislation.
Blinds to what? Blinds us to the science that presents evidence that it is happening and that the consequences might be dire?
Sure - but much of that was done in his second term. He certainly became a more effective President as he went along, but it was primarily by doing exactly what people want Obama to NOT do: compromising. Passing welfare reform and financial deregulation with a GOP Congress isn't a particularly difficult thing to do, and will be similar to Obama working to reform entitlements. DADT was like the extension of the Bush tax cuts - he campaigned on full rights for GLBT in the military, and ended up with a compromise that he had to settle for, but it could hardly be called a victory any more than Obama getting 2 yr extension of the Bush Tax Cuts instead of repeal would be called a victory. Passing controversial budgets is a pretty regular thing that every President except Bush has gone through. At the end of the day, none of those things is at the level of FinReg or Health Care in terms of the difficulty involved in making them reality due to the level of unified opposition. I think NAFTA and Assault Ban were more at that level, with unions and the NRA being powerful opponents respectively.
I do not disagree with cause and effect, but I do disagree with people's motivations even if they seem honest and dedicated toward a good cause. I believe that if people do the right thing for the wrong reasons, then they have learned nothing. Much like cheating on your math test or randomly putting the correct answer down; it does not show you fully understood the problem. Solving problems with an astrological grab bag takes away the real science in all of this. The Earth will get hot, so what? Farm lands will be inundated with water, ice sheets will cover countries where they hadn't, and people will migrate into unfamiliar lands against the will of the indigenous people. But we think this will all happen generations from now. How vain do we want to be?
I think with Hillary we wouldn't have gotten health care at all. That was Obama's campaign promise. Hillary already had that fight when she was first lady, and I don't think it would have been high on her agenda to even push it forward.
Hillary Clinton's also promised health care reform during her campaign. With a 60 seat Senate majority I don't see any reason she (or any Democrat that won the Presidency in 2008) wouldn't have pushed it.
Yes, I didn't write that correctly. It isn't that she didn't promise it, but I believe she didn't promise to do it first like Obama did. I agree that she could have done it, but I'm not sure she would have tackled that right out of the gate.
Well Obama didn't tackle it right out of the gate either so that is somewhat a moot point. Anyway this just seems like an odd revisionary position. Both campaigns focused heavily on health care and that was one of the continual subjects of the debates. Whether Hillary Clinton would've tackled it right out of the gate or not, my guess is like Obama she would've focused on a stimulus first, she most likely would've tackled it.
