[Webpronews & ESPN] Jeremy Lin May Not Re-Sign with the New York Knicks

yeah Irving's definitely the better PG imo. Better handle, better shooting. I think Lin's got better vision and seems a bit tougher from what I've seen when I've seen him play. PG-wise though, Irving is simply on another level than Lin.

 

Don't even mention Lin and Irving in same sentence. Irving is pure point who can score and is clutch as hell. He would easily average 9 assists with New York roster.

 

Hmm. I'm thinking Lin will average 12ppg, 5-6 assist. He's worth no more than 5 mil. He can't handle the pressure and double team.

 

Lin is an odd player because his main assets are height and high bb iq. So he actually handles pressure well, but in a way different from your typical pg. Most pg's beat pressure by being fast and having a very good handle. Lin is not as fast and not as good a dribbler, but he has better court awareness. His handle is good enough against a 1-man press, but against a 2-man trap he will end up passing with good timing rather than dribbling through it.

If he can train and improve his quickness and handle a bit, he will be a very solid all-around PG. Kyrie Irving has the traditional skills of having a great handle and great speed. Lin is hard to compare because he doesn't really play the same way.

 

Why are people calling Lin slow? He tested as fast if not faster than John Wall, Derrick Rose and Kyrie! He's blowing by NBA players and getting around 7 footers in the lane - can't be slow

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/03/life-in-the-fast-lane/

 

Lin's marketing potential squashes these petty arguments over who has the better handles or jump shot.

Lin puts asses in otherwise empty arena seats.
How much is he worth?

 

These threads are so much fun to read. You have various demographics posting about the same topic about a player who's as polarizing as Tim Tebow. You have the fans who make this a race issue, assuming everyone who posts something positive is Asian. Then, you have the contrarians and rebels who want to go against the Linsanity hype and just disagree for the heck of it. Then you have the people are unbiased fans who underrate Lin. And finally you have the unbiased fans who overrate Lin.

This needs to be analyzed as a social-psychological issue, weeding out the explicit racists, the subliminal racists, the snobby NBA fans, the sympathetic NBA fans, and the fans who are just fans because he is Asian.

 

Sorry for hijacking, I know this is not DND but after reading this I can't resist the similarity....LOL :grin:

Don't mind me, move on.

 

UMMMM, yeah dude because he was drafted at number 1 and usually the **** teams get the best pick and Lin was tossed around the league by different teams like a used handkerchief and had to work what was given to him??
One was drafted and the other one was not???

 

because that argument is really a strawman and diminishes lin as a player. haters used to dismiss yaos all star games because all of china voted for him...yet they would never mention that he also won the paper balloting in the U.S. or theyd say bs like yao gets calls cuz the nba wants his marketability to increase...which was pure bs to anyone who watched yao get constantly hacked down low without any calls.

 

He did start All-Star games he didn't deserve thanks to China.

The Knicks don't need Lin to put butts in the seats. The marketing advantages are real though, and can't be dismissed. I don't think signing Lin will be a mistake financially as much as I think it will be a mistake from a competitive standpoint. For the Knicks, it really doesn't matter since they won't have salary cap flexibility for years. Lin will just cost them more than other teams because the Knicks are destined to be in the luxury tax.

 

Plus Sigmund = Glen Rice

 

Watch the game footage. Wall, Rose, and Kyrie all have blinding speed while dribbling in-game. Lin doesn't. Draft-camp numbers don't mean much.

Lin is more of a change-of-pace guy. That's not an insult. Steve Nash is a change-of-pace guy, and he has two MVPs. Lin is something of a hybrid between Steve Nash and Ricky Rubio. Not as good a shooter as Nash or as good on D as Rubio. But probably better on D than Nash and a better scorer than Rubio.

 

The thing with Lin is, if he can improve his shooting, his vertical, his ability to get in the lane and convert with contact, all over an offseason of dedicated and specific training, what's to say he can't cut down his turnovers and develop a better left hand?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/s...remy-lin-as-a-point-guard.html?pagewanted=all

I mean, how many players in the league ever improved their shot mechanics and had such success over one single off-season? We're still waiting on Rondo and Wall to develop a jump shot, Wall to lift the play of his team or wins, Calderon to resemble more than a traffic cone on D, even Jennings has really only improved due to experience but not any specific part of his game.

Also, before the NBA, Lin was playing in the Ivy League. Even Euro League players can take some time to adjust despite much better competition there (vs Ivy League).

I don't think Jeremy Lin is in the Kyrie Irving class, but he's the type of player that can continue to get better. I think he's at least in the Lowry class (despite being totally different players), and he'll be a bargain at the MLE range (just like Lowry).

 

People forget Steve Nash only averaged 9pts 3 assists at 23 (also 2nd season), and didn't average double digit until his fifth year and was 26 years old.

It is all a matter whether Lin will keep improving himself like he has done.

 

There're knicks fans in their forum raving about Lin's defense. People should go watch more games of Lin, and his defense is clearly on the same level of Lowry/Dragic.

Totally forget about marketing, race, draft position...Lin as a basketball prospect is insanely good. He's idol is MJ, and his play is more like Ginobli.

The most important part of his game is his ability to drive and draw fouls in clutch time(sometimes and1's). I don't think Lowry/Dragic(or most of NBA players) will ever be able to do what he's capable of doing in that category, and that's often the difference between stars and superstars.