Can we afford three max players especially considering that we don't have Cuban, and instead have to deal with stingy Les?
people who say Webber stinks - have no idea what they are talking about the guy played at half speed, and slept walked through the game yesterdaty and still put up 19 pts, and 8 rebs, 6 assts, 2 steals and 2 blocks !!! you people are whack - you take this deal 11 out of 10 times its offered. Cat, Cato and Mo are nice NBA players - but you can get comparable talent great players like C-Webb are rare you would rather have 3 stars and role players like JJ - then 2 starts and a 6'9" PF that gets 3 rebounds a game
In no way will I pass the deal of Webber for Cat+Cato (or Mo). You need stars to win in the league, and a frontcourt with Yao+Webber will be absolute killer for the next 3-4 years if not longer.
I would do this trade in a heartbeat too.. CWebb is what we've been hoping for .. (when healthy) .. scores better than MoT and rebounds and defends as well as Cato (maybe not as good a shot blocker) but bodies up well and once he regains some quickness he should be fine. With CWebb im worried about his health and that he is injury prone.. I would hate to have our money tied up in a injured PF all season. If healthy this is a no brainer but it is a big risk IMO. J
"you need stars to win in this league" - seriously, thank you fa7999 - this is the PERFECT quote for some of these posters that think Cat is better than SF3, that think we will be great if we just play Boki, that think Posey is the missing link you NEED stars to win. - look at the top six teams - San Antino and Memphis are the only ones without a large number of star players (and they have a surplus of good talent and GREAT coaching to get by) - the Rockets have Yao, SF3 and Cat & JJ are good players. Mo-T is a nice SCORER, but again - 6'9" and JJ out rebounds him and that is it... you need stars, you need stars, you need stars... (keep repeating it)
No to Weber. I want a "bruiser-enforcer" kind of PF with a "solid" shot and "vacuum-cleaner" rebounding skills.
Webber may not be the perfect PF for Yao Ming, but he's way better than anything we have. Absolutely no one can argue that. It's the rule for trading. The team that gets the best player in the entire trade wins. Webber for Mobley and Cato. Now sit here and tell me Mobley and Cato are better than Webber? MAYBE collectively, but I really doubt it. Webber is not just a better passer than MoT. He's a betetr rebounder and shotblocker, is taller, has more experience in the playoffs, and has better range.
I say do the trade and shop Francis around for a pg like A.I. who needs a new start. Kobe and T-mac will be available next year for the right price.
you mean someone like.... !??!? oh yeah, and then there's...!?!?! um, or we could go after... ?!?!? ...last time I checked Webber was a 20-10 guy! sounds like a quality rebounder with a solid shot to me
I am glad that you are not the GM for the Rockets... I would be forced to become a Cavs or a Pistons fan (just to root against the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavs)
Gater - no argument from me that Wallace is a more realistic possibility than Webber. I agree with you that Wallace holds the cards. I guess I see the possibility that Wallace likes the Rockets so much that he'll overlook the same or more money from other teams as slim. For the Pistons to accept a token deal in a S&T, Wallace would have to essentially refuse a deal with Detroit, New York, and other potential destinations for similar offers. I believe Isaiah Thomas will offer Rasheed as much if not more than we will in a S&T, and I think the Knicks will also be prepared to offer decent talent in a S&T. If Wallace refuses a New York S&T, the Pistons will do as you say. But I think it more likely that Wallace will let the Pistons work out a S&T to whichever team offers him the most money and the Pistons the most talent. If JVG holds out Stevie Franchise or other core players as trade bait (which I have a sneaking suspicion he will), we will very much be in the running. Otherwise, I don't see us being a realistic possibility.
What u talkin' bout Willis? I guess if the Rockets were in the eastern conference we wouldn't have to worry about them being in the playoffs because they could have a losing record and still make the playoffs. The Rocets don't have Defensive problem, They have an offensive and turnover problem. If they are willing to max out contracts on above average players then why not get something for their money. Example, 5 seconds left who would you rather have handle the ball Francis the turnover expert that lacks a jumpshot or A.I. My money would be on A.I. They both have bad attitudes but how many times has Francis F@#*ed up the last chance with seconds left this year? If you want to contend in the west, you have to have team players!
Now THAT I'd like to see LOL!!!! Sorry Summer but I'd have to take pictures of that and I'm holding u to that quote
And A.I. isn't one of them. If you think that SF and Yao doesn't work, imagine a Yao and Iverson duo. Even though it sounds great on paper, the fact is that Iverson and SF are both the same type of player. They need the ball to be effective and aren't good passers. A.I. isn't the "Answer" in Houston.
hey Gucci, I never said Yao and a sf wouldn't exists! A.I. may not be the answer in Houston but he would be a good REASON to look elsewhere! Mark Jackson gets more assists than Fancis. C-Webb and Yao would demand double teams and the Rockets would need a consistant shooter. Oh, and by the way the Rockets average a minimum of 17 TURNOVERS a Game and here lately it's been 22-25. You do the math.
I fail to see how A.I. would make our team any worse. I'm not saying he's an upgrade over Steve, but he's not a downgrade. turns it over a lot, even more than steve, but here's a guy who can score anytime he wants. don't know if he would defer to yao though... i doubt it actually, but maybe. on a sidenote: i really think A.I. may be the most popular NBA player in China. More so than Yao Ming? I dunno... but heck Houston would be a marketing super juggernaut if they had both.
Allen Iverson can score anytime he wants? Who couldn't average 25 points a game if they got to take 30, 35 shots a night.
don't exaggerate, Iverson averages more than a point per shot. PPS numbers are similar to Steves, and Iverson can get to the line a lot more.
Iverson over his career has averaged 5 to 7 more shots than Francis. He would be a disaster for the rockets. Iverson shot 39%, 41% and 38% from the field the last 3 years. He's not an improvement.
