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We want you Dragic!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 27, 2014.

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Do you want Goran Dragic to come back to H-town?

  1. Yes! I want Dragic!

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  2. Meh

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    21.4%
  1. solid

    solid Member

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    Dragic would make the Rockets the favorite for the title. I really believe that. It may not be true, but I think it is. He would be a perfect fit, the tipping point.
     
  2. NL Rocket

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    Ideally, he would come here and be our 6th man since we need a creator off the bench. However, since he will not accept that and Beverley off the bench is not ideal at all, I have to say no.
     
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    if the suns are not in the playoffs by the deadline, and they think they will lose dragic, trading him for some picks and young players makes sense.

    look at what the celtics got for rondo:
    nelson, crowder, wright, mavs first round pick (protected from 1-3 and 15-30 in 2015 and protected from 1-7 in 2016-2020) and their own 2016 second rounder.

    now for dragic:
    shved = nelson
    papa = crowder
    dmo = wright
    2017 rockets pick = conditional mavs pick
    2015 wolves/nuggets second rounder = mavs 2016 second rounder

    however, i would prefer to give both knicks second rounders instead of dmo.
     
  4. saleem

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    I had some concerns about offering him a bigger contract when he joined the Suns, but I never wanted him to go. It still hurts me not to see him in a Rockets uniform.
     
  5. hooroo

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    Dragic wouldn't need to accept that. McHale loves him and would put him straight into the starting line up. He's not Jeremy Lin.
     
  6. kemah

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    lol

    Dragic saw we were going nowhere and jumped to another team. He knew Morey would not do a PO but insisted that he get one. He ended up signing for about the same money. He wanted out of Houston and got it. He had no loyalty whatsoever to this club but fans are still pining for him. Dragic got what he wanted so let his ass rot and let's get a player that can actually help us. Dragic is not worth the max nor worth us locking our cap space down for. We need a back up guard and Dragic is a starter. Get over it already Dragic could care less about this city as he showed us before.
     
  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Pretty much this.

    Dragic is the perfect compliment to Harden in the backcourt. Dragic can play off the ball and hit the 3 and create his own shot. Dragic can be the focal point of creating offense when Harden rests. This is huge.

    Like it was mentioned previously, Rockets fans need to root against the Suns so they fall apart quickly. Also, the better Bledsoe and I Thomas play, the better. Allows PHX to be more willing to move Dragic.

    The Rockets have assets to get Dragic, but Morey might need to get a 3rd team involved if the Rockets asset package is not exactly what PHX is looking for.
     
  8. NL Rocket

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    You didn't get what I said. I think Dragic as a starter with Beverley off the bench is not ideal, so I would want to trade for another creator. Thomas would be better, but his contract is too long.
     
  9. MystikArkitect

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    That went away with Smith. We have D-Mo, Smith, Harden and Dwight who are all capable of carrying the offensive load. If Bev, Canaan and Sved can hit above 40% from 3 they are just fine to fill in the PG position.
     
  10. hooroo

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    The Rockets already have Thomas on a minimum contract in Canaan.
     
  11. RocketTownHou

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    Two reasons why I don't think we need Dragic: 1) We don't need more offense. 2) The Rockets need Pat Beverley's defense on the opposing shooting guards.

    It looks like Morey is building a solid defensive team, and Pat fits right in. To me, Dragic is just a mini-version of James Harden and is not as defensive-minded. Dragic indeed has talent, but I can't see him replacing Beverley, and he probably doesn't want to come off the bench.
     
  12. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I think Ty Lawson would be awesome on this team also. I wonder if the Nuggets are ready to blow it up.
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    You can have Beverley AND Dragic. It does not to be either/or.

    I love the addition of Josh Smith. But when Harden goes to be bench (either for rest, injury or foul trouble) do you want Josh Smith running the offense? I don't.

    Dragic would be very important here. It is a long season. The playoffs are long. The Rockets need this type of player.

    We can't assume Harden can be Superman every night.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Dwight, Dmo, and Smith are not playmakers. They are finishers.

    Smith is never going to be able to run an offense when Harden is on the bench. They get their points because another player sets them up. That player is a playmaker.

    Bev can hardly get the ball into to Dwight. He has to stop and look around, the defense is so onto what is going on. Bev is a shooter and defender. Smith can pass but that is more opportunistic, he can be the middle passer and help frazzle a defense, but he still feeds off of the point guard (in this case Harden).

    Dmo - he's a finisher who can make some nifty passes on occasion. Again, not a playmaker.


    Dragic is a playmaker. He can create a shot for himself and for others. He knows how to make an entry pass. He knows how to break a defense down and get the team passing started which will play to someone like Smith. He knows how to get Dmo in the rights spots to score.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    1. How much is Goran's Contract
    2. Will he come off the bench without b*tching?
    3. Is he resignable?

    NO on any of these would be issue . . and raises THE PEOEPLE's eye brow

    Rocket River
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    1 isn't a yes or no question.

    Why would we bring him off the bench and why wouldn't he be resignable?
     
  17. Melkart

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    Those who point to Harden usage rate as an obstacle for fitting another ball handler assume that: a. Harden has to have such a high usage rate. b It's good for the rockets that Harden has such a high usage rate.

    I think both are not true, especially the second one. With Harden as the only play maker our offense becomes predictable, and quality teams in a playoff series can adjust defensively to stop it, especially those Harden isos in the 4th quarter. In fact, even now during the regular season our offensive rating is pretty low, below league average. If I'm not mistaken, Detroit was the last team with less than average offense to win a championship. It's possible but not likely. Now if Harden was as good a play maker as guys like Paul, Lawson, Lowry etc, perhaps it could have worked. But his assist to TO ratio tells us that is not the case.

    Now a second play maker doesn't have to be at the PG position. Players like Diaw, Gasol, Bogut or Stephenson can also fill the role. Perhaps Jsmoove can fill that role to an extent, that remains to be seen. Perhaps DMo in the future.

    So it's not that Beverley is not good enough to start on a championship caliber team, it's that we need another play maker on the team, and most play makers in the league are playing in his position.

    Dragic is a decent option because there are not many PGs on non-playoff teams that are on expiring contract. I assume we don't want Ty Lawson at 12 mil a year? A possible cheap option off the bench is Jameer Nelson, although he has a player option for next year.
     
  18. Rocket River

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    People here seem to think he wants BIG MONEY
    Off the bench cause it strengthens the second unit more than starting him strengthens the first unit
    I think harden and Beverly work will together
    Most people talk about him making it better when harden is out of the game .. . what is the point of tiring him and harden out at the same time?
    because McHale may want it that way

    Rocket River
     
  19. kemah

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    lol

    Should we give up our few assets for a rental? Lock the cap down and never play for a Chip because we can't get the front court needed to compete in the west?
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    We'd have his bird rights so we'd resign him to whatever.
     

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