WE WANT JEFF CHANT AT GAME ON WED?

Yeah, JVG was the sole reason, right? Give me a break. The Rockets lost to more talented teams.

TMac said JVG was the best coach he ever played for. The players loved him. We are collapsing without him.

At some point you will admit it.

 

Half of the players in our rotation didn't even play for JVG last season (Bonzi, Francis, James, Scola, Landry). I don't know what you're saying.

 

Agreed. We 2 are the only people who have hated TMac long before the past few games. I loved him when he came here, lost some respect after games 3 and 4 vs Dallas, and then lost all hope on he and this team after game 7 last year. Substitute Kobe in for TMac last year, even with our ****ty team, and we still would have won it all.

 

i don't hate tmac. under JVG he was balls out when Yao went down with that leg injury.. he was the only one for a long stretch that kept us alive... yet he seems unmotivated this year... maybe it's the system that the players find hard, maybe it's the hands off attitude.. but even if we are outmatched (and we were not outmatched by the raptors or sixers), last year, we played hard.

 

i seriously hope no one is entertaining the notion of joining in with this idiot.

JVG is GONE and doing that isnt going to help this team in any way.

 

The only problem is that if we are winning no one will even bother

 

i see ... so mail it in for the season, destroy any team chemistry that might be left, just to prove a point. thread starter really is an idiot.

 

NO MORE CHANTS AGAINST YOUR CURRENT TEAM!


The "We want Steve" chants were embarrassing enough. It was acceptable when there was a blowout, and scrap time was up for grabs. But to chant contreversy and make the players on the court uncomfortable is just wrong. Those chants are heard by EVERYONE...not just to a select few.

Chanting against your new coach in favor of your old coach is not going to help this team win. It will only make the situation worse.

There's a time and place to express your opinion. And if you want to see the Houston Rockets win, chanting contreversy during games is not the time.

"We want Jeff...We want Steve...We want Brooks...Trade Tmac....Trade Yao," all that crap will cause those being targeted to lose concentration during the game. You want ALL the Rockets focused on the game when that ball is tipped at center court. You DON'T want the players and coaches focusing on the unneccessary pressure created by awkward chants.

chant against the opponent. Don't make Toyota Center a divided home court advantage.

 

The players and coaches ruin their own chemistry. We fans have no idea what goes on in practice or in the hotel or locker rooms. We fans don't mail in the season, the players do.

 

I don't know what the right answer is. If you did a archive search of "JVG does not know how to use the talent he has" there would probably be a million posts on the subject. Hell, I was guilty of it. Who knows, maybe the so called "talent" is illusory.

 

My opinion, I think it would be classless and idiotic to chant "JVG", when only a year ago, there was a "Fire" in front of the "JVG" chant by us fans. Picture the town mob scenes from the Simpsons, that is what we would be acting like

 

Once again, if you do go out with this, be sure it is at an opportune moment. I would never say this at the Toyota Center, but if we're getting blown out at home in the 4th quarter, and JVG is calling the game for ESPN, then it'd be a good time to do it. Otherwise, shut it, because when fans chanted "put in steve" when the game was very close, that was idiotic more than anything.

 

We just have too many scrubs on our team and a coach who won't realise that he has limited talent and needs a new way of coaching to get the best out of the scrubs.
He also needs to define Yao Mings role- he is a center who's best attribute is scoring and being big, also remembering that he has limited stamina and should only be used for 36 mins max.

 

I think you're giving less credit to the talent than it deserves. Scola, Wells, James, Battier, McGrady, Yao...Those guys are talented.

The problem is that there's too much control in the players' hands.

-Yao Ming is the best center in the league and is a great passer from the low post...but he doesn't make the right decisions all the time as far as picking a cutter.

-Tracy McGrady is probably THE best passer among the great scorers in the league...but he'll call pick and rolls even when Yao is DOMINATING the opposition down low. He needs to feed Yao the ball when he's on a roll.

-James is a lights out shooter and can create for others...but he's a ballhog who thinks he's a star. He'll jack up shots like nobody's business.

-Scola is one of the best finishers I've seen close to the basket in his young NBA career and EURO career...but he has to get the ball in the high post and is regulated to jumpshots.

-Wells can score at will if he just posts up more...but he takes a lot of jumpshots.

Those guys have talent...they just don't utilize it correctly. Establish Yao down low, get Tmac scoring if Yao's struggling (or visa versa), and post up Scola and Bonzi off the bench.


Another HUGE problem I noticed is that Coach A doesn't even have a set rotation yet. He needs to let them gel. then he can play matchups all he wants.

 

Like I said in my post above, these are the same arguments we were using last year. "why is Yao at the 3 point line guarding 2 guards", "why doesn't JVG allow Yao to shoot a 15 footer", etc.., etc.. Excuses and more excuses

As a fan, I am slowly coming to the conclusion that we simply overated this team. I do think it is a natural tendancy. We are all homers to some extent. Every start of the season, we look at the opening ESPN power poll and feel slighted if we are not ranked #2 behind San Antonio.

A good majority of us thought that VSPAN would be the savior to all our problems. That he was the missing piece to the puzzle (replaced with Aaron Brooks). People were making comparisons to Nash. Where is VSPAN again?

Here's RA's Track Record

1989 Portland Trail Blazers 35 14 21 .400 0 3
1990 Portland Trail Blazers 82 59 23 .720 12 9
1991 Portland Trail Blazers 82 63 19 .768 9 7
1992 Portland Trail Blazers 82 57 25 .695 13 8
1993 Portland Trail Blazers 82 51 31 .622 1 3
1994 Portland Trail Blazers 82 51 31 .622 1 3
1996 Golden State Warriors 82 36 46 .439 -- --
1997 Golden State Warriors 82 30 52 .366 -- --
1999 Sacramento Kings 50 27 23 .540 2 3
2000 Sacramento Kings 82 44 38 .537 2 3
2001 Sacramento Kings 82 55 27 .671 3 5
2002 Sacramento Kings 82 61 21 .744 10 6
2003 Sacramento Kings 82 59 23 .720 7 5
2004 Sacramento Kings 82 55 27 .671 7 5
2005 Sacramento Kings 82 50 32 .610 1 4
2006 Sacramento Kings 82 44 38 .537 2 4
2008 Houston Rockets 21 11 10 .524 --

Here's JVGs

Team Year Regular Season Post Season
Games Won Lost Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
NY 95/96 23 13 10 .565 2nd in Atlantic Division 4 4 .500 Conf. Semifinals
NY 96/97 82 57 25 .695 2nd in Atlantic Division 6 4 .600 Conf. Semifinals
NY 97/98 82 43 39 .524 2nd in Atlantic Division 4 6 .400 Conf. Semifinals
NY 98/99 50 27 23 .540 4th in Atlantic Division 12 8 .600 NBA Finals
NY 99/00 82 50 32 .610 1st in Atlantic Division 9 7 .563 Conf. Finals
NY 00/01 82 48 34 .585 3rd in Atlantic Division 2 3 .400 1st Round
NY 01/02 19 10 9 .526 - - - - -
NY Total 420 248 172 .590 - 37 32 .536 -
HOU 03/04 82 45 37 .540 5th in Midwest Division 1 4 .200 1st Round
HOU 04/05 82 51 31 .610 3rd in Southwest Division 3 4 .429 1st Round
HOU 05/06 82 34 48 .415 5th in Southwest Division - - - -
HOU 06/07 82 52 30 .634 3rd in Southwest Division 3 4 .429 1st Round
HOU Total 328 182 146 .555 - 7 12 .368 -
Total 748 430 318 .575 - 44 44 .500 -

Our mob mentality has already run off one. Ever stop to think that maybe its not the coaches but the players?

 

Aw man, looks like those New York Knick fans beat us to it again!