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We still can't move on....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by T_Man, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    uummm. . . ok.

    Rocket River
     
  2. steddinotayto

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    Your thread title makes it sound like we need to "move on" as if neither player is still a Rocket. Until McGrady or Yao leaves this organization, there will ALWAYS be threads about them. Why is it hard for people to just ignore those threads and not read/reply to them when they don't like it?
     
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  3. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Completely agree.

    Three things we could live without (or at least with much less):

    1. How good will TMac be?!?
    (1a. This team would be so much better with TMac!)

    2. How good will this team be in 2010 with Yao?
    (2a. This team would be so much better with Yao!)

    3. Anything involving Ron Artest.
     
  4. steddinotayto

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    1. People act like Yao never played in the series against the Lakers. If Yao didn't play in Game 1, I doubt last year's series would have went 5 games much less 7.

    2. What does the Cavs have anything to do w/ the Lakers? I thought they played the Magic in the finals?



    While Yao and Tracy are injury prone, where has it been documented that either one has been a cancer in the lockerroom? Other than some here say conflict between McGrady and Artest last year, no one has said these two brings down team chemistry. Don't misconstrue "wrong fit" with "chemistry killer"

    Maverick "fans" b****ing about their team's lack of heart? What else is new?

    Everyone in Houston that is a Rockets fan is enjoying this year's Rockets team, no doubt. No one has complained about the way they're playing as a unit because those players that suit up have only each other to rely on. They don't have Yao or McGrady to go to so they need to band together. But to say that a team with TALENT can't play as a TEAM as you're implying is ridiculous. I'd take a TEAM with TALENT any day of the week over just a TEAM.
     
  5. T_Man

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    I for one love the good days of this site when we actually cheered for a team instead of players....

    The main objective of moving was for all the threads about when this person comes back or that one comes back... I was hoping this year would actually be a TOF and YOF free year.

    For the last couple of years or so it's been hard to read and have some good old fashions discussions and debates as we did before the Yao and T-Mac era.

    I will state this for the Talent... USA basketball has had more TALENT then any other country... I will leave it at that.

    Now as you stated earlier, if you don't like this thread then just ignore it.
     
  6. gotsis

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    cant we discuss both?

    At the same time you can discuss our current team, but also you can be worried or pay attention to whats happening to our 2 highest payed players....
     
  7. daywalker02

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    Everything is good in the regular season. Once the playoffs start you realize that the intensity level is going to go up and it is more of a half court game!?
    And we cannot live with the 18 to 20 TOs a game. WE CANNOT LIVE AND DIE BY THE 3 AGAIN!
    One thing that is still valid is we need teamwork and the stars.
     
  8. MD_in_Training

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    Right, just like you can ignore talks about Tmac and Yao returning. I don't see the need to make a thread to whine about people's enthusiasm at the thought of having an even better team with our star returning.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Here here !!

    Teamwork rules !!

    DD
     
  10. shortfuse3

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    its not like we dont have a halfcourt game. we still have capable post up players in luis scola and carl landry. our fast break players are better in the halfcourt actually.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    Ask any coach of the Rockets, Adelman plus the assistants if they would use Yao if he was healthy. I can't believe I just needed to say that.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    You should have paid more attention at who started the threads and who kept them going.
    Ryan B, DD YOFs and TOFs? I guess pigs can fly can't they?
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I just want to point out that you can actually see the number of posts in a thread by posters, and um......

    I don't think you have much room to talk....jr.

    DD
     
  14. daywalker02

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    No personal feelings!
     
  15. LScolaDominates

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    Here's the deal. It's almost impossible to have a team consistently contend for the title without a true superstar. When a team full of roll players and borderline all-stars succeeds, the players expect to get paid, and you end up having to let some guys go.

    The advantage of building around a max player is you get a long-term contract on your payroll that costs you below true market value (because it can't exceed the max salary). As any Rockets fan knows, this strategy is not without its risks, but it really is the best one for remaining competitive every year.
     
  16. smoothie

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    i dont think the op is saying that the rockets should build a team without any stars... just not these 2.

    neither of them fit this style of play. while yao is VERY effective at what he does, dumping the ball into him every time isn't as effective as a team strategy as the rockets are using now. i have to say that i'm starting to agree with the op; that it's time to move on from the yao/tmac era.
     
  17. MD_in_Training

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    That's actually not what the OP is saying. He's actually saying that this type of non-star, everyone-gets-a-chance-to-score, hustle, selfless basketball is the way to go. Whether you like to believe it not, any superstar/allstar that you can pick up is going to disrupt what we have now, whether it be Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Kobe, etc.
    The question is whether or not it's for the better.
     
  18. MightyMog

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    6 games > 6 years?

    I don't mind trading those 2 but we all forget who was with Tmac and Yao, execpt in the last 2 years. Prior to this we had only 2 players who could do anything. Tmac and Yao failed not only because of injuries bur because it took a long time to get players like Landry, Scola, Ariza, Lowry, AB, really good rookies like Chase.

    They had plenty of old washed out players thanks to JVG hiring every old knick player.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    That's Clutchfans where jumping on and off bandwagons happens.
     
  20. T_Man

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    This is pretty much what i'm saying...

    I have no problem with adding a Superstar; but one that fits in with our system and our players... Ala Bosch...

    I'm not saying the team we have right now will win a Championship this year, what I am saying is this team is laying the foundation of some beautiful things that have yet to come. The team looks as if they are having fun out there and playing with a lot of harmony.

    The TOF and YOF made it hard to come to the site and just discuss, debate or talk about basketball...

    T_Man
     

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