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We should trade Harden while his value is high.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by T.Mcgrady, Dec 29, 2014.

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You're one of those people who can never run a team even with force trade on in NBA 2k15.

#221 ashiin, Dec 29, 2014

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How ironic that we are playing the wizards now and losing as well...

#222 Rox11, Dec 29, 2014
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T.Mcgrady said: ↑

Long read. Been on my mind for awhile, sorry.

(stupid crap)

What do y'all think?
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What do we think? I think you should stop drunk-posting.

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#223 Nero, Dec 29, 2014
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Still better thab tmac

#224 Akim523, Dec 29, 2014
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Change title to trade Howard while his value is still a bit high, this guy's value will drop like crazy this year.

#225 NL Rocket, Dec 29, 2014
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The most similar player to Harden this season is not Gilbert Arenas. that could be Lebron James in 2013-14

Gilbert Arenas NEVER had a 20-5-5 season

#226 IBIZA0408, Dec 29, 2014
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lol, tbh i do appreciate the comedic value of this thread after that frustrating game.

#227 impressivegol, Dec 29, 2014

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Should probably just build around Joey Dorsey, IMO. Let's start the rebuild now.

#228 OKCRocket, Dec 29, 2014
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Trade Dwight while his value is high, Dude is a cancer and it is showing

#229 Dhoward12, Dec 29, 2014
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how is washington willing to trade beal and wall for harden? thats a top backcourt to go for years

#230 zyt, Dec 29, 2014
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trade Dwight and Trevor too :grin: :grin:

#231 joeson332, Dec 30, 2014
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i wouldn't trade harden .if we don't win championship this year I will trade anyone except harden,dmo,brewer and Beverly

#232 qwertzy, Dec 30, 2014
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T.Mcgrady said: ↑

Long read. Been on my mind for awhile, sorry.

I know I'm going to get bashed for this but here's my two cents. I would try to move Harden+filler for Wall and Beal while Harden's value is still this high. I doubt the Wizards would give up both, but I just don't think Harden is the right fit for this team.

Harden is not a Kobe or Jordan. He's not the type of player you want as your primary scoring option come playoff time. He's pretty much a Gilbert Arenas clone who has almost maximized his skillset. With the pieces on this team we don't need a good wing with an adequate playmaker, we need a great point and a solid wing.

This team is pretty much the anti-spurs. It looks downright ugly sometimes. Lots of one on one ball. We're last in assists and 9th in pace. Think about that. We've been winning games due to our almost league leading defense. Come playoff time it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to put the clamps down on a team over a 7 game series if our offense looks like hot garbage the majority of the time. Being in the bottom half of the league offensively is a huge red flag at this point in the season regardless of our record.

I'm pretty sure the only team in the past 20 years to be in the bottom 1/2 of the league in ORTG and win a championship was the '05 Pistons. One of the greatest defensive teams ever. It just doesn't happen in this era.

We've beaten the teams we were supposed to beat. Look at the teams we've lost to or split series with. Golden State, the Grizzlies, San Antonio, the Clippers, the Pelicans - almost all contenders. We've had games against the Kings (we were without Howard, they were without Cousins), Timberwolves, and Nuggets go into overtime. These aren't teams we should be struggling against. Hell, we barely beat the Mavs with Dirk, Parsons, AND Ellis shooting 33% or below - and that was prior to the Rondo trade.

17 of the first 28 games we've played this season have been against teams under .500. Keep in mind I gave a pass to teams like the Pelicans which are at .500. We've had an easy schedule to start, and now that teams like the Thunder are healthy, it's not going to get any easier for us. I doubt we'll maintain this pace much longer.

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If you do this dumb trade you still have one playmaker. Beal is not a playmaker. And who is your first option in a playoff series? Dwight? Wall? Beal? Hell no. This is the dumbest thing I've seen on Clutchfans in a while. How has CP3 doe in the playoffs with all of his playmaking? How about any other elite PG not named Tony Parker? Was Mario Chalmers elite? Derek Fisher? Old ass Jason Kidd? Rondo in 2008? Show me the data where an elite PG with no big time scorer carried a team to anything relevant. I'll hang up and listen.

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A team full of good players and no star gets us the Kyle Lowry/Dragic 9th seed Rockets. This one star player for multiple good role players crap needs to stop. Bradley Beal has been terrible all year. He had one good game. He can easily be shut out in the postseason and Wall is not a primary scorer. Harden shot the ball poorly against Portland but he got the shots he wanted. Gilbert Arenas never led a top seeded team. And injuries and a bad attitude ruined his career. Let's not have revisionist history.

#234 okeezie, Dec 30, 2014
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Harden has carried this team for years. He is putting up LeBron James numbers right now.

#235 Pieman2005, Dec 30, 2014
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RV6 said: ↑

I had my doubts about Harden because of that Arenas comparison, but i think he came in this year and has shown how well rounded he can really be. There's still room there for him to make his game more efficient. So, this thread would have made much more sense last season, but definitely not now.

What's more surprising is that you'd pick Harden over Dwight. Given Dwight's age, lack of consistent dominance this season, and his injuries, that's the one you should trade. If you had to, anyway. His value isn't as high, so maybe you don't get as much, but he's definitely a higher risk to deal with going forward, than Harden.
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Would have made more sense last season? harden has been dominant for us since we got him. Our fan base are entitled little youknowwhats for some reason. Harden has had hate from here since day 1. I swear some of you people would prefer kmart and scola playing .500 ball

#236 Pieman2005, Dec 30, 2014
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Pieman2005 said: ↑

Would have made more sense last season? harden has been dominant for us since we got him. Our fan base are entitled little youknowwhats for some reason. Harden has had hate from here since day 1. I swear some of you people would prefer kmart and scola playing .500 ball
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Eaxctly..... Since harden got here he's put up historical Jordan type numbers and he's onky 25. Give me a break this guy has a chance to be a top 15 player all time and the 2nd best rocket ever. The grass is not greener on this one op

#237 YaoMing#1, Dec 30, 2014
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brah u crazy!!!!

#238 ilovehtownbb, Dec 31, 2014

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This harden guy is awful, trade him now! Sheesh

#239 LCAhmed, Dec 31, 2014
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he was high when he made this thread

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