According to <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/sports/buck/apr02/35823.asp">the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on April 17, 2002</a>, Toronto wins the tiebreaker over Indiana. If I understand that correctly, they end up with the 7th seed. But does the tiebreaker have nothing to do with "the draw" to determine draft order? I see on the front page the Clutch refers to a draw to determine draft order, (#14 or #15) and I saw something to this effect in another thread. Does anyone know if the tiebreaker is different than "the draw," and if so, when does this "draw" take place?
The Bucks aren't giving us a pick from the Willis deal. We traded a 2nd rounder to get Willis. The Bucks owe a first rounder to Denver. However, the Bucks DID owe us a first rounder from the Pryzbilla-Collier deal, and we got it last year (#22). We packaged that pick in the Griffin deal.
i agree the perfect scenario that is somewhat plausible(ie: no shaq or duncan trades) is getting both ming and odom. we would be set for the next decade if everyone pans out.
I would love to see us get Artest...he is possibly one of the top 3 defenders at the SF in the league Wink...KT doesnt hold a candle to Artest at any phase of the game...we would be foolish not to trade KT and a pick for Artest
KT is not too much for Artest. But it would be tough to pry him away from Isaiah (sp?) Thomas. Artest is a stud. My Bulls-fan roommate still laments losing the guy. Artest plays hellacious D. He's a bit of a head case, often out of control, but not on a Rasheed Wallace-type scale. If we can get him, great. But don't hold your breath.
That's what ESPN says. I haven't really ever watched Artest play, so maybe he is worth it. I just like KT too much to trade him. He is the Rockets best trade bait though. Someone post some Artest #'s
Well, his best numbers were from the time he was playing with the bulls this season. 15.6 points per game 39% 3-point percentage 43% Field Goal percentage 5 rebounds per game 62% Free-throw percentage 2.8 steals per game ...and that's only playing 30 minutes a night. However, his numbers have dropped significantly with the Pacers. Now that there may be some trade possiblities with him I'm going to watch the Pacers-Nets series a lot closer. I haven't gotten a chance to see Artest play too much. Hmmmm....the Pacers website says 246 pounds also. That can't be true. Can it?
While it may be for personal reasons, I don't see how satisfying the Vancouver option with that pick will be better in the long-run. At least in my opinion, it IS best for the organization to use the pick in some way. Why? If the Rockets are deep in the lotto again next year, then we've just become another G.S., Chicago, Memphis, etc. A team with a crapload of high lotto picks that can't do crap. If a top 6ish pick this year, a top 2 pick in Francis another top 7 pick in Eddie Griffin), a steal in Cuttino Mobley, an asset like a #15 pick to possible be traded and returning players from injuries can't get us into or once again very very close to the playoffs, then another high lotto pick won't help. The only way I see keeping the pick this year as a bad thing is if the Rockets do once again make great strides foward but miss the playoffs by a game, go in the lottery, get extremely extremely lucky and land a top 3 pick next year which we would have to forfeit. But that is very unlikely.
ROXTXIA, It's being reported that Artest could be moved this off season. There's also a hint at (although highly unlikely) that Szczerbiak could be moved. It says that the Fizer for Szczerbiak trade could resurface. I wonder if KT/Collier or T-Mo & the #15 pick would get it done? http://chicagosports.com/columnists/content/column/0,2007,180424,00.html Artest update: The Ron Artest meltdowns continue in Indiana. Coach Isiah Thomas admitted he spent an entire halftime last week trying to calm Artest after Artest beat on a scorer's table, flung a water bottle and resin bag and cursed in the huddle. "I spent most of the halftime with him," Thomas said. "I explained to him when you get yourself in such a state it affects the team. He said he was under control and ready, but I said, 'Yeah, but the effect you just had on the game, it's not just about you, it's about what you're doing to your team.'" With Al Harrington returning from injury next season and Jonathan Bender improving, the talk is the Pacers may try to deal Artest this summer. Crying Wolves: The feud between Kevin Garnett and Wally Szczerbiak resurfaced again last week when TNT commentator Danny Ainge claimed he heard Garnett accuse Szczerbiak of being selfish. Garnett denied it. With the Timberwolves without a home-court advantage and facing probable first-round elimination again, they are expected to look to deal Szczerbiak, and last summer's near-trade for the Bulls' Marcus Fizer could emerge again.
That "mediocre" draft pick can get you guys like Michael Dickerson, Mo Taylor, Sam Cassell, Nick Van Exel, Robert Horry, Othella Harrington, Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman, Ruben Patterson, etc., etc. You're talking about a pick that is just off of the lottery. If you can get a talent like Patterson or Horry or Dickerson and plug them at the SF spot then you're talking an athletic, defensive team. I'd love to have Ron Artest on this team.
Actually, is it sad to get excited about the draft pick? Or is it just as sad to be trolling around the boards to drop a little cynicism? At least TheFreak is staying in character. Hottoddie, I know what you mean by saying Artest might not be shopped; but I wonder if that's speculation rather than actual fact (I saw the articles on ESPN Insider about Artest's out-of-control behavior). If Artest plays well in the playoffs, scratch him off our list of possibilities.
Actually all of those guys were available for the 14th or 15th pick. My point wasn't "They weren't drafted at 14th or 15th so what?" it was "They were available at the 14th or 15th pick" meaning the Rockets have more options in the draft. Just because they weren't drafted in the 14th or 15th spot doesn't mean they weren't AVAILABLE in the 14th or 15th spot.
Point taken...however, my point was that when the draft shakes out based on how players are rated etc, history has shown that the 14th and 15th in particular didnt really pan out
