Let him go, I don't want to see JVG-type game any more,he is a good coach but for championship,he has a long long way to go.
JVG made two mistakes in the regular season, they all backfired. 1. He has no interest whatsoever in developing his bench, has no patience at all on rookies. 2. He was unable to work with players who are not his type. He can't even make them contribute in the rotation. Like Bonzi Wells. Boy right now Rox could really use him. Those are his weakness throughout his career.
Heck, I'm no coach but it's pretty obvious Utah sees what JVG wants to do every trip down. HALFCOURT SET: Yao or TMac has to touch the ball first before anyone gets the green light to shoot: FLAW: Problem I had with this is the amount of space the defenders are giving the point guards on the initial set play. There is enough separation to start off with a three point shot or nice dribble penetration. BUt since Yao or TMac has to touch the ball first, what does the defender have to worry about? One thing JVG has to realize in a playoff series, you exploit what the defense gives you. In the regular season you can stick to a formula to maintain consistency playing different teams. But in the playoffs, you get personal.
Totally agreed, I have been thinking this all season long, now JVG really paid for not developing bench properly in the regular season and the cost is huge, not only 2 losses in Utah,may be more......
At this point I'm not going to expect JVG device any effective offensive plan for game 5. But he needs to do something on defense. If I see one more time a Jazz is wide open under the basket or off a pick and roll I'm ready to give up JVG.
Whatever. The guy has been to the conference finals numerous times and has been to the NBA finals yet he can't coach on win in the playoffs. It's amusing watching people who want to bash JVG come out of the woodworks when the Rockets lose but you never see them when the Rockets won the first two games.
T-Mac has not personnel??? What about Kobe??? Yeah he has walker, he has brown, but Tmac have yao, have battier, mutombo...and I honestly feel alston is better than parker and farmer. Do you think Tmac would lead this year's lakers to a win at all over the suns??????????? T-mac is great....he is one of my favourite player.....But I think he need to stop making excuses about the players around him, and start thinking about what is wrong with him. When LA lost big in game two, Kobe did not talk down his team mates while Tmac was saying our roles players need to perform better after game 3. Someone other than Tmac have to be the leader now in game 5. I think Tmac just lack the killer instincts to lead this team to victory
this is exactly what happens playing only an 8 man rotation, especialy with a weak bench. luther and juawn is our offense off of our bench. but they suck right now. chuck hayes, mutombo, is not for offense either. that means, yao, tmac, shane, and rafer are the only ones that can do anything in offense. jvg puts in lucas. too late. you should have devoloped him earlier. same with snyder, vpsan, and maybe wells. jvg was too stubborn to change in season, and he changes when its too late. unbelievable.
Uh...The Spurs series is at 2-1, and they are playing a lesser opponent than the Rockets. It certainly didn't look like they came out ready to play the first game of their series either. I agree though, we have to find a way to counter the brusing style of the Jazz, this is just ugly ugly basketball. The refs need to get the whistle out of their mouths too. I be Yao has bruises on his forearms for every time the Jazz double teamed, slaped and grabbed.
I don't think we necessarily need to change the coach. JVG has his faults and things that irritate me, but there are positives too. And I dont think there is a coach out there that is markedly better. But the "personnel" needs to change. ENOUGH with the "specialists." I am talking about the "shooters". Great when they hit, but when they don't? useless. We need players that can create their own shot, cause havoc on the floor, force the team's defenses to scramble around. Imagine how much more deadly Yao and Tmac would be if that was the case. Just one example of something we could do in the offseason would be to make that Mike James for Sura+JL3 trade and then sign Grant Hill with the MLE. You bring in TWO guys that can create their own shot. Two guys that can mix and match with our stars. The Rockets in general play good enough defense to win a championship. But they need more fire and more offense. We need more "diversity" at the offensive end to punish teams that focus so much on the Yao/Tmac combo.
Don't blame JVG because our team was too soft in the last 2 games. You can't coach a team to be as hard as whinners when you see the power dancers shaking their sekse bothey. JVG will not coach this team again if we lose this way, that's for sure.
To me I think just the opposite. . . JVG has TOO MUCH Control basketball IMO is more of a Free Flowing game I think Walton pointed it out about how the players in the modern league spend too much time looking at the coach for the play . . and i agree. . it isn't just JVG For instance Lucas was in the game. T-Mac made a hard move to the basket and stopped Lucas put the pass out there . . but because T-Mac stopped it was a turnover He immediately took Lucas out. I know next time . .. Lucas will be scare to make another mistake [I personally felt it was on TMac for stopping.] It also showed the lack of playing together between Lucas and Tmac MY BIGGEST ISSUE with JVG though is his IF-I-HAVE-TO-MOTIVATE-OR-INSPIRE-YOU,-THEN-YOU-SHOULDN'T-BE-IN-THE-LEAGUE Attitude He doesn't feel the need to inspire or Motivate that is the #2 things every coach *has* to do Leaders have to rallie the troops. . . get the men motivated Motivation and inspiration was why 93-94 happened 95-96 happened We played a different brand of basketball we played with a heart the size of texas we played with b*lls the size of texas I don't see that on this team They come from half time looking. . ok another half rather than Excited, angry and Ready to bite through steel I don't think we get past the second round with out someone Motivating and Inspiring this squad to be more than they are to playing OUT OF THEIR MINDS Rudy IMO instilled Confidence and made you want to win for him JVG instills Fear and makes you wanna win OR ELSE Rocket River Rockets in 7
if and only if. . he is a JVG type player because if he is NOT a JVG ype player well . . .. . . it won't work Rocket River
the 8th seed thing is so overrated that was because injuries and under acheiving in the regular season not to mention a mentally weak Miami Heat team Rocket River
I have never been his Fan that is well documented but 1. I still think we will win this series 2. I still think we have a Championship Caliber Team I think they need alot more Motivation, comfort and Inspiration Sometimes I see glimpses of the I-Don't-Wanna-Make-a-mistake tentativeness Rocket River
as i said in another thread van gundy will find it hard to win playoff series as he has limited game plans, and as u can see the jazz have worked out gundy well now. So rockets will find it verrrrryyyyy hard to win a series as gundy as the coach. I personally think the team needs are more creative coach that has more then 2 offensive plays
i agree partially but with all due respect it is the personality of the coach that influences the personell. he puts his ego before the team, it is his way or the high way even if it hurts the team. Wells is one example anyone would bring on, any other coach ( Rudy T) would have brought ou the fight in wells and used it to the teams advantage. look at whoi he has goten rid of ever since he got here, competative people that would take it personally and fight. Instead he has kept a bunch of yes-men passive personalities ( J howard) . anyone ever says anthing end up riding the pine, or like wells gets kicked out of the team. it is the short man syndrome (napoleon syndrome) this team needs competativeness, heart, someone who would take the jazz physical play personally, not just roll over and dribble the ball until the buzzer sounds, we need maxwell, Ellie , Wells, ....... type of people that did and would take it personally . but those are the same peolpe that he would shun from the team and not play them. and worse of all publicly. look at Don Nelson and what he brings out of his players, he lets them be themselves and play. he uses the competative fire in his layers he dosn't put it out. All he is is a good defensive coach. He is unwilling, and unable (or too stubborn) to adjust his offence. or he just doesn't have it. and playoffs needs coaches that can adjust, this is why he gets the first two games in the playofs and then looses the series. with all the adjustments that Utah has made in between games, what has Houston done differetly from game one to game 4? nothing. he uses the same two plays all season. even within a single game he is unable to adjust, this is why they are not a good consistent 2nd half comeback team, he can not make adjustments during the game. get rid of him i say. even in the middle of the series. that would be fun.
Coaches get too much blame. Players win games. We need another PG to go with Rafer, another PF, and a shooter. You can't rebuild with T-Mac and Yao, just have to improve the role players. Our window is only the next two or three years, we don't have time to rebuild. The role players besides Battier need to be retooled a bit but we shouldn't get rid of JVG. I think he gets too much blame here. Did he want T-Mac to walk the ball up with 5 seconds left in the half? Does he want Rafer to jack up shots with 20 seconds left on the shot clock? Does he want Hayes to pick up five fouls in five minutes? Does he want T-Mac settling for jumpers and not taking Giricek to the hole? Does he want Williams/Fisher to get uncontested lay ups at the end of quarters? I know we're all pissed off, but let's not go on a witch hunt for JVG. He's a good coach.
We don't need to rebuild the team. This team has alot more talent than most of ya'll seem to realize. The talent is being stifled by the coach. A different coach would do wonders for this team, and finally let Yao and T-Mac reach their full potential. As of right now this team's players are forced to try to mold their games to meet our coach's narrow basketball vision, rather than let their natural talents grow and expand.
