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We need a war on the hypocrisy of the drug war

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Elvis Costello, Sep 16, 2002.

  1. Timing

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    That's an instant classic. :D
     
  2. Refman

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    When was the last time anybody O.D.'d on fries one night? People die of heroin O.D.s ALL the time. That stuff should never be legal...but the penalty should be rehab...not prison.
     
  3. Mrs. JB

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    Yes, but think of the taxpayer savings. If we let people die of drug overdoses it saves us the posiible years of coronary care bills if they had lived and gorged on fatty foods. ;)
     
  4. Refman

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    (putting the fries down) I'm sorry...can you repeat that? :D
     
  5. DallasThomas

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    I'm sorry, I should have put a :) at the end of that post. Read my post on the first page of this thread, that's my real opinion. I definitely agree with you.
     
  6. rimbaud

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    People die of alcohol O.D.s (what it amounts to, really) ALL the time. That stuff should never be legal...but the penalty should be rehab...not prison.

    Why is death an issue? People can legally kill themselves or help death along in all sorts of ways right now...why is allowing 10 or so more ways to do it so much worse? Besides, the idea is that if it is legalized the taboo/stigma is removed, there can be education beyond drug wor crap, and there can be all sorts of preventative counseling.

    To add more useless sentences...how many people die from heart disease on any given night? Diet is a huge cause of heart problems. Poor diets such as those which incorporate a great deal of fast food are the most dangerous. If death/personal risk is the main motivator for law/prohibition, perhaps these grease dealers should get the crackdown.

    There will always be addicts, legal or illegal. People will always do thinks that will lead to their early death.
     
  7. Elvis Costello

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    I am not sure about fries, but here is candidate: I recently read (it may have been on this BBS) about a diner somewhere in Texas that served deep fried bacon with gravy on the side!
    :eek: :eek:

    Will we soon seen billboards on I-35 brought to you by the *FDFEA?

    George Orwell knew what he was talking about, didn't he?




    * Federal Deep Fried Enforcement Agency
     
  8. Refman

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    I guess my flippant post deserved another. Look...here it is. There are harmless ways to use alcohol. Millions go out and have a beer or 2 every so often and that's it. There IS no such thing as an occasional heroin user. That is the most addictive stuff known to man. We can either keep it illegal or we can be saddled with countless products liability suits later. I personally never want to see an ad for a continuing legal education course on litigating the heroin lawsuit. :rolleyes:
     
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    There it is...thanks. Please don't take what I wrote to be rude...it was just playful.
     
  10. Refman

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    I hear that stuff is pretty good. I could never eat it...it just sounds nasty. [​IMG]
     
  11. Refman

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    Sorry rimmy...I misunderstood your post. No offense meant.
     
  12. DallasThomas

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    Edit: my link didn't work
     
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    There's also one of these signs on I-45 going towards The Woodlands (i havent seen it but many of my friends have).

    And I'd have to say that it's a total waste of tax-payers money. Although shwag (basically Mexican dirt weed) is pretty scarce (in Houston & the Austin area), dank (hydro, KB, etc.) is as plentiful as ever - trust me.

    So basically, it's damn near impossible to find real sh!tty pot, but potent @$$ dope is everywhere.

    Thank you DEA!!
     
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    I beg to differ, tobacco is the most addictive drug bar none!

    I know a ex-heroin user that smokes...you will notice I didnt say ex-smoker.

    He claims that kicking H was easier than the 5 times he has tried to kick smokin.
     
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    You're making these words up, right? "Shwag." That's a good one. You had me going there for a minute!

    :D
     
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    I smoked it once. It was pretty cool. Never tried it again. That doesn't really count though, I suppose, since I was too nervous of the whole addiction thing to see if I could be 'an occasional user'. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
     
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    There are several ways of classifying addicition, but according to most studies I've seen smoking and alchohol are right up at the top. Caffeine, while nowhere near as high as those two, is also surprisingly high.
     
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    Perhaps much more addictive when injected as opposed to smoked. The withdrawal alone can kill you.
     
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    Refman, I don't think you really know what you're talking about. Its your personal disposition toward addictions that determine whether or not you become addicted. Many things are chemically addictive, but there are occasional heroin users just as there are weekend blow users. The basic problem is two fold 1. Since no one has ANY idea what the purity of the heroin they buy is, they can do the same amount on two different occasions and get MUCH more actual heroin the second time. That is the MAIN reason for overdoses. If the substance was legal then the purity would be fixed, preventing mistakes in dosage amounts. Users don't just sit down and start stabbing huge quantities into their veins (and many users don't use needles at all). And 2. that substances used to cut hard drugs like coke and heroin are often themselves dangerous (draino crystals etc). If the government legalized, and regulated, these problems would immediately disappear.

    swt939,

    The killa is always around, so who wants gasweed anyway?
     
  20. Refman

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    Maybe you're right there. But I still maintain that heroin is different. It is highly physically and chemically addictive. This is opposed to mar1juana which is psychologically addictive. The withdrawal symptoms from heroin have been known to cause death in some patients. If I put the pack of Marlboros tomorrow, I would recover from the withdrawal within a few weeks. If I had been using heroin I would spend the next few days with chills, diarrhea, vomiting and seizures which could lead to death. Any way you slice it, heroin is really bad stuff.
     

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