So true. The problem I have with Rafer is that once he's in the paint, he's looking to score. He doesn't look for open players, his mind is set once he drives into the lane. V-Span penetrates, but still looks to dish. Man, I'd love to have this guy back. It would be a huge upgrade. It's like a PG version of Scola. No quit, all hustle.
were not winning it all this year... AARON BROOKS. the time is now... TO LET HIM PLAY! and get him experience, regular season and playoffs.
I agree, he should be getting some minutes now...especially as the backup PG. And Rafer seems to respond when he has some pressure on him for Playing time.......so........ DD
Vspan confidence is unbelievable and you can observed it when drive, steal or pass. No hesitation, no second thoughts, and he strong too when he goes into the paint. Rafer and AB somehow don't look as strong as him and from the confidence perspective, the differences are huge.
I am watching Mavs vs Warriors. Kidd is amazing! He always can pass the ball to the hot hands! I wish Rafer could be as half good as him!
True you know i was thinking of possibilities of what lies next season and its all based on 3 things. 1)Spurs 2)Suns 3)Rockets & the 1st round. Do you think Morey could posibly have a trick up his sleeve this offseason with the Spurs? You know thay are in position next season to sign Elton Brand. And this is the best year to make a move if they indeed want to make a move. They are the oldest team in the league to and might start looking forward for the long term. Do you possibly think T-Mac&Scola could be headed to San Antonio this offseason for Duncan? Remember Scola is friend with Ginobili&Oberto. Remember San Antonio did have a deal worked out with Orlando but it was all up to T-Mac in his decision in where he wanted to be traded to before he came to Houston. Remember San Antonio did indeed fear that Scola would get in Tim Duncan's way. If a trade was indeed on the horizing dont you think Morey would trade him where he is most likely to win a title and not just for other players on losing teams? Think about it. Dont you think this is the best we could possibly get for T-Mac. But then again it boild down to 3 things. 1) Can the Spurs repeat 2) Are the Suns to strong down low 3) Rockets 1st round hopes. Dont you think the Spurs would trade Duncan close to home and on a playoff calibur team? I surely think so.
I partly agree with this post, but I don't necessarily think we need a great playmaker running point. We just need someone who can finish, and who can shoot the outside jumper with more consistency... and who (like Rafer) can bring the ball up under pressure. ... Also, Baron and Parker aren't passing PGs. They are scoring PGs. That's the same thing the Mavs have had before this season, too. So a player like that is not necessary. But they need to still be an offensive threat. Actually, they very well might. They're a young, rebuilding team, and by next year, Miller will definitely be over the NBA hill. They might be interested in getting cap relief for him, depending on how their season is going, and who they have backing him up.
A penetrating PG would be nice, but a lot of you are neglecting the fit factor. If we're looking for starters the biggest concern should be how they fit next to Yao. As talented as Yao is he's not extremely versatile and needs particular role players. We tried expanding his game with the high post experiment and it didn't work. It's obvious that he's at his best down low, so his teammates have to take advantage of that. That means shooters. If Yao were as mobile as, say, Duncan this wouldn't even be an issue. Go ahead and bring on Andre Miller or Tony Parker. Those two would still be great next to him as it is, but someone like Hinrich (who's not all that great) would be much more valuable. A penetrator off the bench would be great, but in the starting lineup it both he and Yao would lose a bit of their game. Not that it matters anyway. We have no penetrators and our offense gets stagnant. Adelman's kings had none either and their offense flowed like butter. We should focus less on what "type" of players we have and just hope we have good players, period. Or maybe you guys still think we need "an athletic, shotblocking PF type" next to Yao instead of Scola.
C: The Great Wall PF :Mr. Fundemental SF :Mr. Intangibles SG :Shooter/defense? PG :Ball handle/Speed/Shooter The defense would go from 2nd to 2nd to none. I would really like to see more Brooks in action i think he is just to good and has the range and speed to be placed on the bench its time to enhance his tallent on the NBA scene.
You know i got to thinking again. Scola did indeed wanted to always play in the NBA. If he couldnt play in the NBA he was going to sign a contract with a team in Europe. Maybe the Spurs got into a position last offseason and traded him to the best place to where they thought he could recieve the most minutes and that was Houston. I think the Spurs always thought about Duncan but at the very least they wanted to see what kinda player Scola was upclose on the real level. I dont think it was so much in what they could get back for him but it was mostly about giving him the chance to prove himself on the NBA level and the Spurs class as a organization overall. And it was about trading him to a team to where they could monitor his progress to see if they want him back? You never know them Spurs. They are probably thinking about exstending their window for more championships for another 3-4-5- years. And it was do to the fact they could not afford him because they was trying to avoid the luxary tax. But are you thinking like how im thinking of looking at it from the Spurs view? They always liked T-Mac too. So did Detroit/Indiana/Lakers all did too they had a deal on the table already worked out just waiting for Orlando to clean up but it was all T-Mac decision and they took Francis& others instead. Now if you listen closely to Morey before he has claimed they are looking for the ideal power forward to fit next to Yao now tell me do you really believe Scola is that man? You have Wallace? Duncan? Jermaine on those other teams and Gasol & now Odom dont know if he will be resigned. You follow my leads?
Duncan and Yao don't fit....they are the same type of low post player, they would crowd each other. I think Scola stays in Houston for many years..... DD
It may seem that way but i dont think thats true. When ever 1 has the ball down low all the other has to do is clear out. You know this organization and its incomplete history with Sampson and Olajuwon.
Not even close to the same, Duncan and Yao NEED to be on the low post, and neither one is all that quick or quick enough to guard other team's PFs on the perimeter. Duncan is NOT coming to Houston, and Scola is NOT going to San Antonio. What we need is a penetrating PG....that is what this thread is about........ DD
Yea true we do need a prime time point guard. I also remember Morey also saying they are looking to add another wing player? So if Brand is on the market and San Antonio has the money you dont even think Houston would turn down the greatest power forward in history do you? Duncan might not want to stay in San Antonio for ever. And T-mac might not want to stay in Houston then again who knows right?
The Spurs will never ever JAMAZ want a player like McGrady. He is not a Spurs type of player in terms behavior. He is a expensive player for what he brings. They have their offense set at motion mode in which TMac sucks. They wont trade Duncan who has passed on 10 million dollars to keep the team competitive. Popovich will wipe his arse with TMac.
I think some great PG look like they aren't as good at passing simply because they are so good at scoring. Baron and Parker are terrific passers. As many have said already, Rafer isn't really a good passer. Its not about creativity, he just can't do it so he doesn't try, that is why he doesn't turn the ball over because alot of lesser PG try to make the tricky pass. If we can just get an average passing starting PG who can shoot than we will be in great shape. But, I'm more interested in collecting as many real ballers as possible right now. Everyone was griping that we needed some fast atheletic foward put beside Yao. Scola isn't that atheletic, but he can put the ball in the basket. Let's start with that and worry about the specifics later.
I can't really argue with much of what you say but the Spurs do not run any type of motion offense. Their offense is quite similar to ours, in which Duncan posts up and everyone else spots up. Parker and Ginobli are the only other creators in their offense, which is mostly based on guys spoting up for open jumpers. This is probably why some would draw the comparison to the Spurs and see the biggest component missing is a creating PG who can get to the rack. I believe we're missing alot more.
I don´t know how much you see the Spurs but they do, actually the offense run by the spurs is the same offense run by Argentina NT called Flex Offense, a motion offense very popular in colleges and schools in EE.UU actually the plays run for Ginobili and Oberto are plays taken directly from Ruben Magnano´s playbook (Argentina´s coach during Olympics) that was paid to give the Spurs coaches some tips on zone defenses for few months (very used in FIBA bball. Flex offense is a montion offense that combines a lot with a good inside out game, because the motion is in the players it is teached to (screen-pass-screen) until you get a open look. Just see the Spurs regulary when they play well (for example games 1 and 2 of the 04-05 NBA Finals) and you´ll see beatifull screen and pass ball movement.
Remember the good Sacramento Kings when J-Will is their PG? He's good but can't help them to go deeper to the playoffs..so they traded for Bibby...I think that scenario will happen to Rafer...but for whom? Hinrich? or anyone?
