1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

We need a "clutch" performer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pass 1st shoot 2nd, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. flamingdts

    flamingdts Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,630
    Likes Received:
    4,729
    I don't understand why you always cry about people who insult you during an argument when you are guilty of the very same thing.
     
  2. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    ab would have gone if the trade were for cp3
     
  3. ryano2009

    ryano2009 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    7,887
    Likes Received:
    5,400
    Yes you can pray all you want bro but he is not going to be a rocket.
     
  4. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    What I am saying is that the statement means nothing, especially when it is coming from the FO. Any decent PG can play as a starter for a championship team or contender and the team will still do fine. Just look at Derek Fisher. He is old and mostly useless until certain clutch moments, but the Lakers do very well. Hell, you could put Alston on the Lakers and they will still do good. If DM truly believed that AB will turn into a star, he would have signed an extension or at the very least, not constantly be looking for a real star.

    DM traded for Lee to address our lack of depth at 2 and remove the glut at 3. So we trade Ariza for Collison, what then? It is not like we have a surefire trade lined up for AB or we would still be thin at 2. Contrary to what some may think, JT is hardly ready to be a significant contributor off the pine.
     
  5. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 1999
    Messages:
    1,394
    Likes Received:
    30
    Wow, awesome. What's your point? Brooks ain't Kobe.
     
  6. josh_is_white

    josh_is_white Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    280
    Likes Received:
    19


    OMFG!!!! WE ARE NOT GETTING HIM SO STOP ASKING FOR HIM!!!!
     
  7. josh_is_white

    josh_is_white Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    280
    Likes Received:
    19


    thank you DD!
     
  8. Aemon

    Aemon Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2003
    Messages:
    301
    Likes Received:
    0
    One cold blooded shot after another...AB is clutch!!
     
  9. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    Yes, any PG on the Lakers would be championship caliber.

    Fisher would not be championship caliber if he were on the Rockets, Brooks is.

    But but but Brooks is just an undersized SG, he could of been backup two or whatever it is you haters always spout.

    You're argument is weak and you are grasping at straws.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,863
    Likes Received:
    39,261
    There is a significant difference between getting personal and making fun of each other.

    I am sure you really do understand, at least I hope you do.

    DD
     
  11. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    My argument isn't weak, you just highly overrate an undersized two guard who's only skillset is shooting.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,863
    Likes Received:
    39,261
    You're argument is non existant, you ignore Brooks strengths completely, and emphasize his faults, and completely make up other faults.

    Lots of folks on here do the same thing.....production wise, Brooks is all star level, he is very very good.

    Does he have weaknesses, of course he does, but his strengths far outweigh them.

    Aaron Brooks is one of our best players and IMO, one of the most underated PGs in the league.

    And, he is getting better...

    DD
     
  13. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    Also, Morey said nothing about Brooks being championship caliber if he were on the Rockets, he only said that he could be a starter on a championship team, which means absolutely nothing. Take your own advice and stop grasping at straws.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,863
    Likes Received:
    39,261
    What exactly is "Championship caliber"

    What does that mean exactly?

    If the Rockets win it this year, as is, who will have the "championship caliber" label you are talking about?

    DD
     
  15. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    I ignore Brook's strength completely? What the hell are you talking about? I acknowledge his scoring, quickness, and shooting. Those strengths however are further marginalized when you look at the bigger picture where we have additional scorers and the return of Yao. He is only All-Star caliber as a scorer, no where else. If Brooks wants to ever rise to the next level, he needs to show that he can do more than just shoot.
     
  16. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    When the hell did I actually say anything about championship caliber? I was replying to larsv. I specifically said Morey said nothing about it so please don't put words into my mouth.
     
  17. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    29,954
    Likes Received:
    20,123
    Huh? As has been already noted, the Rockets not signing an extension is a matter of policy, the same way that they won't add no-trade clauses no matter what (see Mike James contract situation).

    The team has a lot of extensions coming up. If they cave and sign Brooks to an extension, won't it affect the rest of the team? Next week you'll have an article about Battier saying he needs an extension, the week after that Martin will say he needs an extension etc.

    Also the with the CBA looming looks like the salary scale for players will be reduced. The going rate right now for Brooks is around 7-10M since he's the MIP. Unless he was willing to sign an extension for 6M PER, I think its better to wait.
     
  18. solid

    solid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2001
    Messages:
    21,206
    Likes Received:
    9,022
    We have several young maturing players, one or more of them can and likely will become more confident and proficient or clutch. I would trust AB, Scola or Yao when the game is on the line. And you have not seen the best of Martin. The Rockets have talent. By playoffs, this team should be rolling. A team with three or four All Star level players should be pretty good.
     
  19. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    Simply denying talks for an extension could also affect the team. It is a team policy to not give extensions, but policies are not ironclad rule. If it is a star we are talking about, you think Les or DM won't lock him up? If Yao was not injury prone and demanded talks for an extension, you think they would deny it? What about if we somehow get Melo? Will we not sign him an extension because it is team policy and it will affect the rest of the time? NBA players know its business and in this stars get special treatment and role players just shut up and play. DM said it himself that in this business he will do what is good for the team, even if it means feelings getting hurt.
     
  20. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    Oh like Yao?
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now