if you have a team of below average players, a superstar guard can take it to playoff while a superstar big man usally cannt. on the other hand, if you have a team with quality players, two good guards like parker/manu, sam/spree, a superstar big man can lead that team to promise land ai:wade:kobe:tmac/bogans/bowen/howard/deke is a always a better team than alston/bogans/bowen/td:kg/deke
Thread title screams 'flame war' (I know it was not her intention) but anywho: I said it before. The one good thing that could come out of this is that Tmac would be forced to step up and go full throttle whether he wanted to or not. Just like last season when Tmac was out and Yao catapulted into an mvp-caliber player, I thought Yao's absence this time would do the same to Tmac. So far, so good. Scary when the two are on the court together again. It's going to be like the end of an episode of Voltron when they finally join together and kick arse.
Dumb thread. Revisit this after we play some winning WC teams. Either way, I'll take any wins we can til the entire team is healthy again.
The cupid who started this thread should have waited until Feb to see to it that it's really the case. Let's just hope that he is right cuz otherwise he'll be remembered in this bbs as a 'martian'.
WHO is MORE stupid and ignorant to raise such a thread to stir flame and controversy after TMAC played and led this team to win over those 3 scrub teams, and then yelled.................ooooooooh I've told you, TMAC is a better player and the Rockets can win without Yao Ming, as Old Mutombo can replace him totally on the defense ??? I am not down-playing the achievements over TMAC and the rest of the Rockets, because that is not an achievement at all. Like Yao Ming said after watching the game tape of the Atlanta Hawks, it is no big deal that we can put away such scrub teams............ If we cannot win over such scrub teams without either TMAC or Yao Ming, then you might as well forget this season altogether.
If you guys don't think like JVG--that we have millionaires who should work and play hard enough without their superstars--then why even keep up with the F**KING team? That would make all fans with season tickets dumbasses for buying tickets for a team that can only win with their superstars wouldn't it? Why even buy tickets if all of your hopr for this team rests on two guys and not the rest of the millionaires that should step up and get the job done like all the other hard workers in the world. And for all of you that take Yao's side or TMacs, grow up! This should be about the rockets not whose got the bigger fan club! All of these guys should play hard and believe they can win regardless of whose in the lineup and Tmac and Yao should play just as hard as the other guys and not be expected to do it all, just like the other players. The question isn't who the best player on this team...its who can lead this team to the playoffs? So far, its JVG's coaching for constantly taking an undermanned team and winning with guys he believes in.
This team was built around Yao. Even T-mac is just a piece of the puzzle meant to complement Yao. The sign? Look what t-mac's role is win Yao is out - it's to score. What is it when we have Yao? It's to facilitate the offense and take pressure off of Yao. Without Yao, we're not going anywhere. We're probably not going anywhere without T-mac either. But let's be realistic, the personnel we have is meant to complement Mr. Yao. The opposing teams focus on Yao now, not T-mac or luther head. And beating the bottom of the league doesn't prove anything. Anyway, once we lose some games to good teams I think everyone will realize how much we need to big China man! (just kidding). Sure we might pull off an upset or two, but c'mon. This Rockets team can be great without Sura, Wells, and Synder....it can be good despite the predictably unfullfilled expectations of VSpan and Novak. But can we be great without Yao? No. without T-mac? Very Unlikely
A superstar guard can take a team to the playoffs all by himself? I guess Kobe is the example you are referring to? T-mac couldn't. Nor could Vince Carter. Nor could Allen Iverson. Shaky chase. Hakeem won a championship with a bunch of no-names at the time. Rookie Sam Cassell....second year Robert Horry - vernon maxwell? Otis Thorpe? Kenny Smith? Robert Horry is known as big shot bob - but he never put up all-star numbers in any season he ever played. Cassell developed into a near all-star, but is pretty much a journey man scorer pg. A poor man's Allen Iverson. Yeah, if you have 4 scrubs on your team, let's face it, you aren't going to the playoffs no matter who you got as your superstar.
It's pointless to bring in last year's record, 'cause we know 1) Yao is much better this year and 2) the supporting case is improved. Last year Rox was a bottom team without Tmac. This year we should do fine as a .5 team without him considering most losses were determined by one basket and team began to adjust playing without Tmac.
For the first part, maybe i'm missing something, but T-Mac took Orlando to the playoffs 3/4 times. It was pretty much on his lonesome. For the second part, again, T-Mac (superstar guard) did it 3 out of 4 times on his own and Kobe (superstar guard) has done it 1 out of 2 times on his own (on his own meaning no Shaq).
I wouldn't call Lamar Odom a scrub. Nor would I call the guys T-mac played with scrubs either. Mike Miller and Darrel Armstrong were pretty good players. Mike Miller is actually very good - rookie of the year in fact.
it seems to me that you are personally offended about someone mentioning the success of the rockets without yao, because you think everyone is going to think that tmac is better or whatever. well, its to be expected from someone like you who only posts things when it concerns yao. feigen from the chronicle had a good point when he said that any given team can have a pretty good night, like memphis did a few days ago. beating these teams when they are playing well is just as a good a win as any, in my opinion. if you cannot even be happy about the team when it wins, just because yao is out, and then even downplay their success because you dont want people thinking tmac is better, then its quite obvious who you're really loyal to. the original poster's point wasn't to say that tmac was a better player, but that the team can function better when he's in, simply because the league right now is so guard oriented. so dont take things so personally man, you'll get old quick. haha
Whats the record this season without him?. this is a pointless argument, we can win some games without tracy or yao, but we can never and the opreative word here is NEVER WIN A TITLE WITHOUT BOTH THOSE GUYS THERE.
These types of posts are just terrible. There's absolutley no point. Does anyone know how to give negative stars?
wow, some of these posts are so negative. who cares who the best player is. they are going to get paid regardless, unlike you . get a life
darrell armstrong was a spent force after 2001 ... he was an average starter after that season. and mike miller was rookie of the year in the weakest rookie class of the last 10 years. here are the magic those 3 playoff years. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2001.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2002.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2003.html there is nothing "very good" about those rosters.
Centers and shooting forwards are not comparable. They play different roles on the court. End of story.
