Last year TMac-only team was only marginally better than Yao-only team, but still with decidedly ignominious losing record, including a 0-7 streak. This year, the team won several significant games with either TMac being a non-factor (vs Dallas), exiting early due to injury (@ Washington, vs Cleveland), or not even on the side line (@ San Antonio). So your unequivocal "belief" that TMac-only team is better than Yao-only team is as baseless and misguided as the deliberate whoring YOH who started this thread. As far as I've observed, no YOF has ever claimed blatantly on this board that Yao alone can carry this team to victory. The stupidity and hatred of some YOHs, on the other hand, show no boundary.
lol of course I won't root against the rox. I am just saying that it's a nice bandwagon time to say we can win/stay afloat without yao. I have been saying all along that we can maintain and beat the teams we should beat without yao. we have enough talent on our team to do so. it isn't a tmac v. yao debate...it's just the simple fact that when you have 1 superstar with our supporting cast then we should be a .500 team. right now things are looking good cuz we are winning against very bad teams. but when we go thru this next part of the schedule there are gonna be a lot of people on the board b****ing about how we suck and we aren't contenders and blah blah blah. I would love it if we somehow we won more games than I expect, but I am not gonna jump off a bridge if we don't. we will be fine.
Yao will get 2 pts if he scores (except for and 1) T-Mac can get 3 pts if he scores from outside. So i think normally, with only Yao on the court, Rockets will get close games. (think about their losses). If Rockets win a game, that means other rox players (at least one of them) must have scored many points. Conclusion: Shaq needs a scorer along with him.
The most stupid thread in 2006. Do we have to judge whether Yao or TMac is better? They are not playing the same position and they are on the same team.
Yao himself, out of his humble nature, said that T-Mac is the best player. I believe I read it once at Chron this year. So does that satisfy people who question and compares who is the best player and who makes who better in the team? T-Mac is a great player, unquestionably. But he's been starting to get really back in the form again in the last two games after his injury. And there's no guarantee that his injury would not reoccur. The more revealing question is: If you are a GM and you must only pick one player as your foundation of the team, who are you going to pick: T-Mac or Yao?
This is not about who is the better player. I think the thread starter is trying to say that the team plays better with only TMac than with only Yao. Like someone mentioned, the key is play making. Yao is a C. He's not a play maker unless you put him in the high post. The sad fact is that our only good play maker is TMac. With him out, no one is good enough to make the offense click. That said, Yao is a much more consistent scorer now than TMac. A dominating big man is much more reliable than a dominating perimeter guy. So I think it is kind of a wash. As for the games we have won without Yao so far, well, let's say the opponents sucked. Let see how they do against good teams and we can discuss this again.
People will always remember the team record 0-7 early last season with Yao but without T-mac. But they tend to forget those are against legit contenders like miami, detroit, pheonix etc., plus yao was playin with bad toe then!
It just comes down to the nature of the zone-friendly NBA now. Yao cannot take advantage of his dominance as easily as TMac can, especially down the stretch of games. It's not a crisis to point out that McGrady is a more valuable member of the team than Yao. Tracy alone makes up for a couple of more roster deficiencies than Yao does- perimeter defense and point guard distribution down the stretch of games. We need both to do well, obviously.
This thread is pointless. Why are people so obsessed with trying to determine who is more valuable to the Rockets? The Rockets need both Yao and McGrady to win a championship. Not one. Not the other. Both. I can't make it any clearer. The constant bickering between the YOF and MOF needs to end. It's sad that so many people can't see the value of having two players the caliber of Yao and McGrady.
We are equally good with either out. I don't really take the Hawks and Grizzlies as fair for comparison purposes, when Yao went through a 5 game road trip (all .500+ teams besides the Clippers) and the Lakers a couple of times, and then some scrubs from the east (who we still killed). This team is above average with just 1, but just barely. (a 44 or so win team). We need both to become true contenders. (Also I could be wrong about being = lets see though this team vs. the January stretch without Yao, I hope I'm wrong and they sweep the schedule .)
Yao may be a better player than TMac overall right now. but in one category there is not contest, Tmac is far more superior: To make ur teamates better. that requires experience, playmaking, pose, and leadership. Yao will get better. that being said, I dont believe we would have beaten the Spurs with TMac without Yao. because playmaking makes a better squad but doesnt really affect ur opponents, that's where Yao's IMPACT needed.
The bottomline here is winning a championship. No way we're going to accomplish that withouth Yao and Tmac. So get the hell that shameless thought of yours out of thsi thread.
You have got to sharpen your English. You are not even in the same ballpark to interpreting what he said
Look, i agree against the suns, tracy will play a far lorger in our chances of victory. conversly i believe against the spurs tall timber, yao gives us a greater chance of victory due to hes size in combating duncan's low post dominance. we're really lucky we have two players who can creat numerious mismatche all over the court. against some teams, yao will have a greater effect. whilst the same can be said for tracy.
What's interesting is crap like this did matter A LOT to Kobe and Shaq. Good thing our 2 actually ARE team players.
