We can’t ignore the elephant in The room, Green needs to start over KPJ

Yes and smart coaches do this. There is no replacement none at all for the experience that being an NBA starter gives you NONE.

 

I see and understand your prospective. I don’t agree though. If one is given everything from the moment they enter the league what is left to earn and grow into. Entitlement and untapped potential is not a good combination, IMO. Earning achievements no matter how small is how character is made. Not get things on the first try or just for showing up is how it is built. We are not going to get a second chance to grow the 4 rookies.

 

This is NOT true. The thing that is left to earn and grow IS GROWING. Rookie of the year, Most improved player, become an Allstar or Superstar, earn a max contract. Its important that you believe in your players. Why do you think KPJ keeps tweeting that. Literally the dude tweets thanks for beleiving in me Houston like every week lol There are so many players with potential who went from bad to good AFTER being given the starting position. it is one thing if we were a playoff team. We won 17 games, we are rebuilding that is what rebuilding is about believing in young talent.

 

If we didn’t believe in him he wouldn’t be on the team. If we didn’t believe in him he wouldn’t be a multi millionaire by cash Tilman’s checks. He can learn from veterans and be placed in winning situations at first. He has done nothing to warrant a starting position in the NBA as of yet. Will he start someday soon—> YES. The season is long. In my opinion, vets start the year till the rookies TAKES the spot. It my happen in one game or 10, IDK. I want the starting backcourt to be Porter & Green at the end of the season not the beginning.


Porter was kicked off the Cavs & given a second chance here; he is thankful. Why do you think he was kicked off the Cavs?

He had to loose what he had to realize it was worth having. It was given not earned.

 

You want him to learn how to lose from veterans because on our team thats what would happen. The issue here is that you believe in these false tropes instead of what real life example tells you. "He needs to be on the bench and learn from vets" as if he cant learn from them while starting or as if playing against other vets from other teams means he will somehow learn less lol its Tomfoolery

 

Use DJ Augustin, Carl Herrera, Grayson Allen, Cade Cunningham, Donte Greene or Anfernee Sengun as an example, I don't care. The point stands.

The logic being used is all he has to do is be perfect and then he'd be perfect as an argument for why he must start. If those guys fixed all of their flaws they'd be flawless too. That's flawed logic.

It's always neat being called a "hater" when you challenge a "fanbois" logic (not you but someone above). Who here hates KPJ? I don't have any beef with anyone in here and I'm down with KPJ starting. I'm merely saying that the fanbois shouldn't kill themselves if he comes off the bench. It's hardly worth debating about, just pointing out the bad logic.

As I said earlier in the thread, a bench player can match a starter in minutes and play against second units. It's not all bad. As long as they get time, starter is just a paper designation.

KPJ fans be flexing at no one. I want this whole team to develop and that includes having an NBA veteran mentality where you'll play the role the team needs.

 

I also said he needs to be put in winning situation at first. Him get “schooled” is not going to help his ego at all. He is a rookie player he will get picked apart at first. I want him to be successful. I think the coach has a responsibility to do more than throw him out there and say he is growing and will get better. Once again I want Green to become a multi year superstar. He has to crawl before he runs. The season is long.

 

The idea that after starting he would learn more from going against the bench is a silly notion. No one is saying perfect. I actually never even seen that word with regards to him shooting better or playing better. Again there are great examples of players raising their shooting percentage more often than not at his age in the NBA. You're acting as if its impossible LMAO. This thread gives me a headache. I get headaches so easily on Clutchfans lol

 

We won 17 games bro. You think we are gonna win more games if we start house over KPJ or Green?

 

Gordon, House and Wall are average to above average players regardless of the team record. All where out for extended periods of time last year. Green & Porter are our future; we need to ease them into the mix.

 

Easing them in is not an actual thing. KPJ has already been a starter. Green has been in the gleague. The only difference is how much experience are they gonna get. These are young men not little girls.
This entire idea that Wall House or Gordon provide some type of benefit by starting them over young guys with potential who are already where they are is silly. Both Green and KPJ are both better than House and the only thing they will learn from Gordon is how to chuck 10 threes and only make 30% lol

 

Youre talking like we are a winning team that still has a superstar to teach these guys. We are not. We have below average players and we're rebuilding. This is why I said you guys were spoiled earlier, you dont get it.

 

The first thing Green will learn is the NBA is a business not a sport. House will get playing time ahead of him because House needs to be moved.

 

He'll learn its a business regardless if he doesnt already know because you know he got paid by the g league and saw nba veterans playing there. Regardless he'll learn that the Houston FO practices bad business if we start House over him lol.

 

Why not both

 

I hope Silas is smart enough to make them EARN their minutes rather than just give it to them.

 

The elephant in the room is Wall. Only wall. That and Horny Bubble boy. Danuel House is gone as soon as we can get him to sign a contract.

 

"Earn" lol such a boring silly cliche. There is no one on our team playing at a level that suggests both kpj and green cant start. Yes lets play vets just to punish the rookies for being new that'll teach them for being rookies in the NBA lol. Lets not start KPJ because he's young eventhough he started last season and yeah lets destroy his confidence that'll be great. Someone mentioned business earlier which is ironic because we have these young kids that would be entertaining to see and you want to bench them so we can have another season of wall gordon and house chucking us into oblivion lol yeah because theyve earned the right to do that, and yeah that should fill the seats. Totally something I want to pay to see. I hope youre not a business man lol.

 

Man we have John Wall on our roster. How hard does anyone think it will be for Jalen Green and KPJ to get those minutes. Fun Meter Gordon isn't taking it. Wall is Wall... he'll start missing 90% of his 3's and he'll be on the bench in no time. I agree with earning the minutes. There's just no way in hell KPJ and Green don't outplay Wall. If they can't we're tanking and trading.

 

I was laughing at the "earn" cliche because they have basically pushed their points back from "they should let the vets start or it'll be to easy for them" to well they can start if they "earn it" LMAO. They are both already better players than the "vets" we have, what does earning it mean? They think we are still a good team with good players. If that were so I would agree with that. We suck and on a sucky rebuilding team you start your high draft pick rookie. He was a #2 pick for gods sake not a 2nd round pick. KPJ was the best player on the floor at times last year and he's only 21. They both already played in the Gleauge what exactly are they earning? They will be better than House day 1 of training camp lol