I read the article and it never says the people are not black. Are they ignorant or stupid if they are black?
Given Rocket River's logic, not necessarily either. You do understand why it's more socially acceptable for a black person to use that word, right? Words are not GOOD or BAD just on their own. It depends on context, and it depends on the speaker, and it depends on the audience.
BOTH She is not worldly. . so she is a bit ignorant about things but her stance with the women paying for their own rape kits is just stupid Cause if it were her or her daughter i'm sure she'd want differently That is the primary problem with folx When it is other folx. . yea . . be harsh and dry and cold and someone crueal with the idea of PURE JUSTICE AND MORAL AUTHORITY. . but when it comes to them and theres. .well . . .it is a private family matter [YES I AM LOOKING AT A PREGGERS DAUGHTER!!] Rocket River
in my experience the only thing it depends on is how the person who heard about it or is discussing it feels about it. It seems to be purely subjective which makes no sense to me and is the reason I am always around these threads.
Not to be mean but do you have a comprehension problem? Serious - You asked THIS QUESTION: Do you think racists are smart enough to understand tax credits? I answered . .THAT QUESTION Period! Now tell me where . . . . being black or white enters the picture You asked about RACISTS I Answered now you want to answer with something that is irrelevent to the original question? I don't care for smoke and mirrors . . or bait and switches You question was asked and answered If you cannot tell the difference between stupid and ignorant at this point well .. . . Hopefully Websters will work for you Rocket River
It isn't totally subjective. The word was used for generations by one race to oppress people of one race. Therefore it is potentially worse for the oppressing race to use the word.
I was not aware I was limited to one question, and that new information could not be brought up. Also have you always been anti-paragraph? I have never noticed that. You on a mobile or something?
no limit but you add new irrelevent information also Casey . .. can I call ya casey BTW - Do you have a family nickname? What is it? Anyway I will give you a little more education 1. The reporter refers to them as the racist votes. . if they were black he would not have done that because one black person call another black person the n-word does not connote a racist. In school it is call using Contact Clues. This is clue that the commenting people were not black. I guess unfortunately things need to be implicitly written for some to get it. 2. No black person would refer to Barack saying .. I'm voting for the n-word. Most would say . .I'm voting for the Brother. . at worse. . I'm voting for my n-word. We tend to take ownership of our shining stars . .again a context clue you may have been ignorant of . . so i enlightened you. Offense is personal .. if someone says they are offended. . guess what .. THEY ARE OFFENDED . . .and really don't need you to understand. You can explain your position and they may not be offended any more. You can not have intended for it to be offenses. but at the end of the day . . whether or not they are offended is on them not you or me. One more Question: Have you ever been call something you didn't particularly care for in your life. . and just let it slide? What was it? Rocket River
I think you mean 'Oppressed race' . . the Oppressing race is the one complaining about not being able to use the Oppressing Word Rocket River
LOL! you don't like my board name? that sucks. I feel bad now. you are making my case that it is subjective. I agree which is why I have such a hard time with hard fast accusations of racism. in person?
I know .. I just wanted to see how far he would go . . . . The Intentionally Obtuse thing gets old quick Rocket River "b b b but. . wwwwhhhyyyyy???"
No one ever said America is lacking in ignorance. There will always be backward thinking people in this country. But in some ways it has reversed itself. It's like i you don't vote for Obama you're a ignorant ****ing racist. I know many will not vote for Obama because of his skin color. But there is also a large white cross group that will vote for him because of his skin color. Some of my liberal friends have said as much to me. When I tell them Obama is not who he claims to be and point some obvious lies of convenience they just don't care. They feel it is time for a black president as if this country owes it to Barack for all the injustices of the past. That's a stark contrast to narrow minded bigotry of that backwards Rush Limbaugh crowd. Slavery was wrong but it should never be a reason to vote for Obama. I will even concede if all things were equal I would prefer a minority in the Oval Office. But all things are far from equal. McCain is in a damned position here. If he says anything negative towards Obama he is a racist. He has outwardly rejected any sign of racism in his campaign. Even to go as far as saying to not vote for Obama because of the color of his skin is morally wrong. But now the media is holding McCain accountable for what someone says in Scranton while he is in Miama. Even to the point of fabricating drama. No one ever said "Kill Him" at a any McCain/Palin rally. Yet the lie was spread on every media across the world. And Obama had the in this most recent debate Obama had the nerve to spread the lie. He even went so far as to blame Sarah Palin for not squelching the fictitious fellow. Now if that is not using the race card to get elected I don't no what is. His next book should be THE AUDACITY OF DECEIT -How I Lied My Way to the Oval Office
Some people will be offended by a word, regardless of the context. Personally, I'd consider that overly-sensitive, but then who knows what their life experiences have been. But it's lazy to just say, "Well, what makes it right/wrong is just how people respond to it." I don't agree with such moral relativism. 50-60 years ago, the majority of Americans might have been offended by inter-racial marriage. That didn't make it wrong. How people respond to the word is indeed subjective. But we all have to decide for ourselves when it's appropriate and when it isn't, and judge others accordingly. A very obvious scenario in which it's not appropriate is for a white person to use it while trying to denigrate a black person. And, actually, I'd extend that in this way (and this is where you may disagree). I think that if a white person in this country uses the word "******" to refer to a black person in their everyday language, then that shows either stunning ignorance or willful disrespect. It should be well known by now that "******" is a word used to speak down to black people. So if a person knows that and still chooses to use that word in reference to a black person, that means they're implicitly claiming that the person is inferior to them.
Fair points...I have some thoughts on this too. I like Obama and will vote for him. A lot of that is a backlash to the last 8 years. A lot of that is that I believe the world is very different now, and the old approaches are no longer applicable. Particularly as they relate to America's place in the world and its perception of neighbors around the world. I'm afraid McCain is of that old mindset...and I'm just not personally interested in that. That's where the values of America and the values of MadMax go separate directions. But a side benefit from all of this is Obama's skin color. I believe that to be true. If there is a segment of society that feels as if it is not valued...and feels as if it is disconnected...and this moves people down the road away from those feelings of disenfranchisement....then there is value in that. Depending on your background you may ascribe little or a lot of value to that...but there is value there, I believe.
