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[WC Semifinals] (1)Utah vs. (4)LA Clippers

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jun 6, 2021.

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Jazz vs. Clippers

Poll closed Jun 9, 2021.
  1. Jazz in 4

    2.6%
  2. Jazz in 5

    7.9%
  3. Jazz in 6

    15.8%
  4. Jazz in 7

    26.3%
  5. Clippers in 7

    13.2%
  6. Clippers in 6

    26.3%
  7. Clippers in 5

    2.6%
  8. Clippers in 4

    5.3%
  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    Terrance Mann.
     
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  2. daywalker02

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    Lol, Gobert is a stiff, Simmons at least can move quickly.
     
  3. hakeem94

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    its not goberts fault ....should of shot the midrange or attack the rim to stop the bleeding, the momentum and the killer run...you dont keep chucking 3s when cold even its wide open...tsk tsk tsk...bb iq & psychology 101
     
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  4. heypartner

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    Momma, there goes that Mann
     
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  5. Reeko

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    they gave up 81 points to the Clippers in the 2nd half allowing them to shoot 71% from the field and 14-19 from 3

    most of those threes were wide open given up by Gobert…when Gobert was on the floor, everyone could get it…he was giving up open threes to not just Mann, but Bev, Batum, Reggie, and Paul George too

    they also didn’t fear his DPOY defense at the rim either…Mann posterized this dude twice in 2 games, and even Reggie Jackson took it right at Gobert at the rim

    midrange ain’t stopping u giving up wide open threes every time down the court

    if u shoot 21-44 from three like Utah did, u should win comfortably
     
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    Agree or disagree with Draymond Green?

    "I think what [Gobert] does on the defensive side of the ball is incredible. I think the way he protects the rim is incredible. Defense is more than just protecting the rim.

    "Y'all don't judge defense the same way you judge offense. There is no offensive situation where you don't want Steph Curry on the floor. There is no offensive situation where you don't want James Harden on the floor. There is no offensive situation where you don't want LeBron James on the floor. Well, guess what? There's no defensive situation where you don't want me on the floor.
    "

    Everybody like, 'Look, oh, man, this guy led the league in steals, that guy led the league in blocks.' But is there a situation where you can put that guy in and make him uncomfortable? For most guys, yes. You can't put me in a situation on defense and make me uncomfortable."
     
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    the stat is pointless without context... psychology and MOMENTUM is deciding factor if they make the shots or not... cp3 would of killed that deciding run with a couple of well timed middies....or hack a someone or making a hard foul or fake an injury....there would be no run.....also pop would have killed their momentum with calling timely timeout or 2-3 Timeouts in a row if needed...
     
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    thinking midrange would automatically stop the run or be some psychological boost as if they would just start hitting shots they never took all year is pointless and unfounded

    now you’re adding extra stuff like hacking people or faking injuries

    fact of the matter is they shot 21-44 from 3…more than good enough to win comfortably

    How about take Gobert out the game when he is giving up 3 after 3 hemorrhaging points and not even put any points on the board on the other end? That’s what Pop would’ve done.
     
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    I can't believe some are saying it wasn't Gobert's fault lol. It's as if no one watched the Rockets make a joke out of Gobert the two times we saw them in the playoffs.

    Get this through your thick skulls, a defensive player is going to get exposed in the playoffs if he is a big man or if he can't shoot free throws or if he can't give you any offense outside of putbacks and alley oops. Are players like Gobert and Simmons great defensive players and arguably 2nd or 3rd best players on their team? Possibly. However, if they can't expand their game to be effective in the playoffs then they will get exposed every year.

    Look at Giannis who still gives you some numbers in the playoffs, but his weak free throw shooting and shitty perimeter numbers really expose him in the playoffs as well. Only reason there is going to be a Game 7 for them this year is because Brooklyn has had injury issues, otherwise, the Greek Freak would also be eliminated already.

    I don't know why anyone is arguing otherwise. Snyder was an idiot for not making adjustments and taking Gobert out of the line up. They can easily run a 5 man line up with Ingles/Bog/O'Neal/Mitchell/Conley. Clippers scored a ton of their points in the perimeter and Gobert, despite being one of their best players, was ****ing useless because he refused to step out and guard. Lol.
     
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  10. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    No one really critizes Kawhi. He didn't even play the last two games.Glad the slander on Playoff P is wearing off. He became the clippers whipping boy.
     
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    this x1000

    a big that can’t score outside of the paint and can’t defend outside of the paint will get exposed come playoff time by any team that can effectively go small

    Gobert is so limited offensively, that even if the opponent goes small, he won’t really punish them offensively, and then on defense, he will give up three after three

    Gobert scored just 12 points in 42 minutes last night, and gave up over 40 points on the other end
     
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    Green can absolutely be in any defensive scheme or set, and he can hold his own against anyone in the NBA. I think he's truly one of the best defensive players of all time.

    Meanwhile, Mr. 3x got crapped on by a dude named Terance Mann in the Jazz's most important game. And now he's owed 205 million over the next 5 years, significantly handicapping Utah's ability to get new blood.
     
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    Honestly, Kawhi getting injured was really good for Paul George. If the Clippers lost, it's okay because you didn't have Kawhi. LAC would be undermanned and in a lower seed with no HCA. If you won, you did it without Kawhi and you did it as the primary option / "the man."
     
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  14. saleem

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    I'm never going to complain about a Utah Jazz defeat.
     
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    I watched the game and wound say it wasn’t principally Goberts fault.

    why?

    the Clippers offense in the second half was this. Give ball to playmaker. Playmaker drives past defender at ease. Defense has to rotate.

    maybe the defense rotates better with a more mobile defender. But either way that defense is giving up a **** ton of points.

    Seriously it was okay after play of Jackson or PG or in some case even PBev just taking a one on one defender off the dribble. They weren’t even PnR to get Gobert on a wing on the perimeter.

    then offensively they don’t throw him any lobs or anything.

    yes when another really good team comes at you with small ball you have to mix it up. Thenrockets didn’t run Capela out there endlessly. And absolutely Capela gets paid less. And sure… perimeter defense is a lost art… partly made so because of rule changes.

    But step one… don’t let the other team run offense that is the equivalent of playground beat your man easily and find the open guy.

    mall that said… the Clippers are also good. With or without Kawhi it will at least be a test for the Suns.
     
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    Maybe why playoff p is playing so well. There is less pressure on him to win.
     
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    WOW. What a beautiful moment. Last I saw the Jazz were up big. It's a Juneteenth miracle.
     
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    And Mitchell might leave, that is extra good.
     
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    Well firstly, I'm impressed that he was able to put together that much of a coherent thought in english.

    But secondly, I think I agree with his point (even though I wouldn't want him being my team's defensive anchor). Centers get blocks so they get DPOY, but they aren't mobile enough to have the impact of a prime Tucker or Ariza in today's NBA. People underrated the hell out of Ariza here. (Then he got old anyways.)
     
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